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Lisa Farrell, a competition shooter in the San Luis Obispo area, spent a couple of days some years ago teaching my wife to shoot. Lisa used a .22 Buckmark with a Tac-Sol barrel (IIRC), a muzzle brake, and a red dot sight. My wife thought it was like cheating, but did very well.
OTOH your daughter seems more eager to shoot, so probably doesn’t need that super-soft-shooting .22. It was very accurate and looked very cool, though.


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If you really want a Sig and you want to start with a 9, then I say 225a1. It’s not a lot thinner than a 228 but enough that my little girl hands notice.

I would start her with a 22 however. Specifically a Beretta 87. Looks like a “real” gun, shots like one, operates like one, takes down like one. Great gun.
 
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I too am leaning towards recommending a .22LR semi auto. There are some with pink grips and such and that can be her first gun. I would have her hold them and let her pick which one feels best to her. She can always shoot your centerfire guns when she is ready and comfortable and at that time, might want a black or stainless one of her own. I find that .22 is best for practicing trigger control and precision shooting for newbie shooters.
 
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My 14yo daughter likes my HK VP9. I told her it’s hers when she turns 21.
 
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M&P EZ .380 ...if you get a good one its quite fun to shoot. My 12 year old son loves it.


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Glock 48 is a great choice.

If your staying with Sig, the 225A is a great 9mm also.

If you are good with .380 ill put in another vote for the Shield EZ




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Stay away from anything .......... DA/SA, ..........


Please explain your reasoning.


Sure -- BLUF: Decocking is a pain.

Longer version: Shooting is something like 100 discrete actions put together. Kinesthetically speaking, it's actually a really hard activity and it's a lot for the brain to handle all at once. Rub your tummy and pat your head ain't got nothing on grip, front sight, trigger pull, and follow through.

DA/SA is one more variable I can eliminate. Trying to explain, "Well there are two trigger pulls, one for the first shot, the follow up ones are lighter, but yes, you can start with the light one but you really shouldn't because some German/Swiss guy said that's not the proper way." New shooters always forget to decock. And trying to teach two trigger pulls in one gun is downright overwhelming.

There's a reason DA/SA is dying and training is that reason. It takes less effort to train someone to shoot proficiently with a Glock, M&P, or P320.

I learned on a single action or striker .22. So did most of the members on here. Mark IIs, Buckmarks, and the like are really popular for a reason. They work well, they're easy to explain, and inexpensive.

Once a shooter is comfortable, I like to get them shooting heavy 9mm guns. My current range gun is a Glock 34 MOS with a Surefire X300U on the front. Recoil is negligible and almost anyone can shoot it well -- even half-blind, uncoordinated people like myself Big Grin


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A G48 is a nice choice for smaller hands. Cerakote it pink.

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Revolver not out of the question.


How are the Charter Arms revolvers holding up? Maybe a 22lr or 38 spl. (53840 Charter Arms Lavender Lady 38 spl 5 shot).
 
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Have you looked at the new hammer fired XDe. Easy slide to manage and great controls and features make it excellent gun for new shooters. XD quality is excellent.
 
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If you really want a Sig and you want to start with a 9, then I say 225a1. It’s not a lot thinner than a 228 but enough that my little girl hands notice.

I would start her with a 22 however. Specifically a Beretta 87. Looks like a “real” gun, shots like one, operates like one, takes down like one. Great gun.



Those would be my recommendations as well.
 
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When I am teaching someone new I always start with a revolver and at first we load one round at a time with 5 empty chambers and they shoot all six. Autos did not come until they had done a lot of dry fire and talked safety and many other aspects of shooting.
 
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Since this is the Sig forum, wait for the X-Compact. Rent the .22 for to teach the fundamentals with, but buy the 9mm. As she matures, she can take the X-Compact and grow it up to the X-Carry size or even X-Five size.
 
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When I am teaching someone new I always start with a .22 revolver and at first we load one round at a time with 5 empty chambers and they shoot all six. Autos did not come until they had done a lot of dry fire and talked safety and many other aspects of shooting.
 
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How about a Ruger MARK IV 22/45 LITE with a pink top.

https://ruger.com/products/mar...pecSheets/43915.html
 
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whatever she might pick, Hogue offers Pink grips, model specific. Rubber to G10 If you see anything that may fit the bill, let me know.


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Ken, those full size G10 1911 grips look great. Have you all ever considered doing a thin version?


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Again, the S&W 380EZ is made for these circumstances.


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Another vote for the S & W 380EZ. It will be far easier to operate and shoot than a small gun.


Yep. Designed specifically for less experienced and smaller-statured shooters. It's a great choice for a first "real" (non-.22) handgun. I call them "granny guns", because they're ideal options for Grandma to keep around for self defense, but they're equally ideal for a petite 15 year old. Simple. Easy to load. Easy to rack the slide. Low felt recoil. Not too big, and not too small.

The (now discontinued) Sig P250 .380 Compact is a similar option. The plus side is that it has a higher magazine capacity than the 380 EZ. But the downsides are that the overly long DA trigger pull may be tougher for her to master than the S&W 380 EZ's trigger, plus its discontinued so it may be tough to find a nice used P250 .380 and some spare magazines.

Otherwise, any of the various medium-sized striker-fired 9mm handguns (G19 or similar) is a good beginner pistol. Slightly more felt recoil than the above .380s, but more effective too.

Just don't get her a subcompact pocket pistol, like a LC380 or a J frame. Tiny little pocket guns are harder for even experienced shooters to shoot well, they have more felt recoil than a medium- or large-sized handgun, the recoil springs on subcompact semiautos are necessarily stiffer so the slides are harder to rack, and their magazine capacity is limited. They're terrible choices for newer or weaker shooters. But counter-intuitively, those tend to be the guns that are offered in pink "for the ladies". Roll Eyes

If she really can't live without a pink gun, get her something like a 380 EZ or G19 and send it off to have it coated pink.

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Locked breech .380's are softer shooting than 9mm


That part is true. But the medium-sized S&W 380 EZ or Sig P250 .380 Compact are both locked breech .380s, and are better options than the smaller subcompact LC380 for the above-stated reasons.


I like Rogue's advice. Very sound.

I mean no disrespect, but there's no way I would get her a 2" snubbie J-Frame. Poor sights, low capacity, heavy trigger, and even heavier recoil. Over the years, I've had dozens of women come through my CCW courses with J-Frames, only to dump them as fast as humanly possible after shooting more user-friendly semi-autos (better sights, less recoil, higher capacity).

My daughter is 19 and specifically wants a revolver because she likes my wife's 66-1. I told her that a smaller revolver would in no way mirror the pleasant experience of shooting the 66. She's insistent, so I'll be getting her an SP-101 with 3" barrel, not a J-Frame snubbie.

I may try to talk to her about the S&W 390 EZ after reading Rogue's post.
 
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Ken, those full size G10 1911 grips look great. Have you all ever considered doing a thin version?


Considered it and we are offering.
Though not in all colors/materials
Check out Thin G10 1911's here


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Ruger SR-22. It has the same form as any other defensive gun (no bulky target .22) with very little recoil so she can learn good habits from the get go. It's cheap to shoot and comes in pink.
 
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