I’ll start by saying I’m a die hard classic Sig P series and old school HK USP and P7 guy! I have a P30sk LEM love it! I’m not a Glock guy I owned a 23 and 29 and have shot 32,20,43 and 19’s. I’m not really into striker fired other then my P7. I think M&Ps are decent for the price. Now that’s all out of the way my wife has been shooting a P226 9mm for a couple years and two weeks ago I decided I want her to start using a optic on a hand gun. So I bought her a HK VP9 long slide and a Trijicon RMR for it. Holy crap I fell in love and so has she! It’s the most fun gun I have shot! Took it out twice in the last ten days to the range and can’t wait to go again. I didn’t even buy it for me at all honestly!!!

Sorry Canik guys my buddy has one with a optic I have shot it a few times it feels like my hand is twisted weird like it’s made wrong or its crooked not a fan….

Might have to wait a while for the LTT 92.

"ORDER FOR THE 92 ELITE'S ARE CURRENTLY CLOSED AS BERETTA USA IS NOT BUILDING OR DELIVERING THEM. PLEASE add your name to the wishlist to be notified when they are back in stock and we can take orders. We do not have a future delivery date, so please do not email us asking for dates."

https://www.langdontactical.co...elite-ltt-full-size/

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Originally posted by mikeyspizza:
Might have to wait a while for the LTT 92.

Yeah, I looked it up about an hour ago and saw that. I'm not opposed to looking for used once I've got the cash together, but I'm guessing there's probably not a lot of those floating around used.

Thanks for the replies, keep 'em coming. I'm looking around, reading and thinking it over.

Going by your criteria, based on what I have, what I've considered, and what I'm considering...

An updated 1911? I shoot my Remington 1911 R1 Enhanced like nothing else. May well be my favorite pistol. Not kidding. If the idea of a Remington doesn't attract, there are plenty of nice 1911s in your budget.

Or kill two birds with one stone: A 1911 in 10mm My Kimber Classic II GFO in 10mm is a hoot to shoot--even with full-power hard-cast loads.

A Glock G34? I'm generally not fond of Glocks, but I love shooting that G34. Mind you: This is a "race gun"--designed for competition. (When I was in practice I could knock pins over with my G34 darn near as quickly as I could with my .22.)

An H&K VP9 or VP9-B? I fondled a VP9 in an LGS and came this >< close to walking out the door with it. If I hadn't already had the G34, I likely would have. Probably the best striker-fired pistol trigger I've ever felt, bar none. Great fit and feel. Terrific balance.

I'd suggest maybe a P210A, but I think that blows your budget. They are sweet pistols, though.

Perhaps something in a 9mm 2011? (Though most of what I'm thinking of would badly blow your budget, I'm afraid.)

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

Something that's fun to shoot?

Red dot equipped guns are fun to shoot (after initial not fun phase ) and give you something new to learn and explore. LTT 92 or CZ is just a heavier and larger version of your 229 with a nicer trigger. Sure, easier to shoot but without a specific purpose like, say, competing with them, I don't think the experience with them would be incremental.

HK and fun to shoot generally don't go into one sentence. The VP9, maybe, dunno.

Take your $1200, buy a Trijicon SRO or Romeo 3Max, some mainstream poly gun to mount them on (will probably be a striker), go do some slow long distance shooting and observe your groups improve more than from any supersweet trigger job on an iron-sighted gun, take your shooting to a new direction.

Of course, now that I typed it all, you'll reply that your G19 has an RMR...

CZ 97 sounds fun but a little too big for my hands.

I've got an LTT 92. It was one of the stock guns so it didn't have the Langdon trigger job. I dropped a LTT Trigger Job in a Bag in it and it is very, VERY nice. I plan on ordering another kit for my stock 92fs as well. I used to hate the 92, but as time has gone on it has become one of my favorite platforms. They slick up really nice really easy.

i'll vote for the walther, I have a q5 steel frame, with a vortex venom, that is just dead nuts accurate. heavy gun, definitely not a carry gun, but you may want to look at one.

Just off the top of my head:

H&K USP
Maybe a big wheelgun in .357 or .44

While these may be at the top of your budget, I would concur with those who suggested an LTT with the trigger job, would add a Beretta 92x Performance or a Wilson Combat Brig Tac with the action tune, and would agree with the suggestion of a CZ Shadow 2, an outstanding pistol! All three respond very well to inexpensive mods, in particular installing lighter mainsprings which lead to a noticeably lighter trigger. I own all of these and can attest to how great they are to shoot.

I can understand wanting something besides a polymer gun or the not very exciting P pistols. As mentoned above the CZ97 (45ACP) would add some excitment to your shooting. I have found the stock pistol to be a little rough but I still enjoy it. I am sure it will get improved when I find a good gunsmith for the work.

As far as the CZ 75s go, the good ones are outside of your stated bubget.

I bought a Shadow 2 in the last year, middle of covid, from big Kentucky based store for $1203. It was the urban colored one, the black one was more expensive. That’s 3 dollars outside his budget. I think it was the best value gun I’ve ever bought.

If the only 1911 you have is an old GI gun, I'd consider adding a more modern variant to your collection. I have a 1943 Remington Rand in the safe, and it's pretty awesome just for the history alone, but my Springfield Loaded is just awesome to shoot...it's like a completely different gun. The updates to the platform in the last hundred years have really allowed the design to exploit it's potential. There are some good options out there in your price range, too, ranging from the higher end Springfields, Colts, Kimbers, to used Dan Wessons.

If you're wanting something completely new and different, the Shadow 2 as mentioned above would be a great buy as well. I've not owned one, but I've shot one and it was a treat.

I don't think you'd go wrong with a Beretta 92, either. It's a well-designed, smooth shooting gun, and there is a lot of stuff being done on the aftermarket for them these days, too.

There’s a black and blue Shadow 2 with five mags and a competition rig for $1,250 two hour’s drive from me on a local board. Got listed a month ago, so he may be willing to wiggle on price, especially if I drive to him. Real nice shape, looks like. Seems like a fair deal to me. Gonna have to think that one over. I’d have to pay transfer fee because of our fucked up laws.

I think if I don’t go with that, a Beretta 92 is probably the ticket. An Inox with the LTT “trigger in a bag” sounds about right.

The Shadow 2 is the best value to performance sweet spot out there. It comes from factory with a really good trigger, very good sights, big adjustable mag release which is better than it sounds, good AL grips, it feels like an extension of your hand. Albeit a heavy extension of your hand. Lol

The only reason I don’t use it for HD is that I prefer a firing pin block for real use. It would probably be fine being dropped because of the “half cock” notch but my SP01 covers HD so I just use the S2 for matches and general gunplay.

The high end CZ’s are phenomenal. You can pay more but then you are just paying for bragging rights.

State of front sights affairs on my Dos Shadows. Main gun situation is "it was there before the last match". Backup gun situation is "what's the point in replacing". Funny that the roll pins are doing great.
Whoever decided to mill in the dovetail along the line of recoil needs to be kicked in nuts.

I don’t understand what I’m looking at. The front sight departed the gun but the roll pin stayed in place? How does that happen? The slot is dovetailed and my experience is it takes a lot of force to seat them. I’ve installed Truglo’s, Dawson’s, and factory blades. I have 10 CZ’s with that roll pin/slot setup. Never lost a blade or even have one move. At all. Something else is going on here. How much blade material did you remove to install these?

Oooh, that’s a fun problem to have. Not being familiar enough with the gun, I’m not entirely sure what I’m looking at here, mechanically speaking, other than the front sights vaporized. There’s roll pins, you say? Puzzling. At the very least, it’s a repeatable error.

Buy a XDM Elite, put a Powder River Trigger kit in it and a decent Red Dot optic on it and use the hundreds of dollars you saved on loads of ammo to blast away with while wondering why before you spent so much on pistols that aren't as good and fun to shoot............

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Originally posted by YVK:
State of front sights affairs on my Dos Shadows. Main gun situation is "it was there before the last match". Backup gun situation is "what's the point in replacing". Funny that the roll pins are doing great.
Whoever decided to mill in the dovetail along the line of recoil needs to be kicked in nuts.

Interesting, I own 15 CZ75 based pistols and never have had a failure like that. However, I have never milled a slot in the top of the slide in them. Perhaps the top rib provides more stiffness than perceived?