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Has anyone been carrying the Ruger 57 concealed carry? I won a Ruger 57 in a contest but as expected with the ammo situation, have not been able to enjoy the pistol since I have not found ammo available at a anywhere near reasonable price. I know the pistol is long at 8.5 inches but it is lightweight and slender, in my hands anyway. I have carried full-size pistols for concealed carry and I know other people who have done the same. Of course, most people's preferences would be to carry something similar to the Glock 19 size or smaller. However, I have always been intrigued by this unique round and now there is Speers self-defense brand of ammo.


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If I wanted to carry that Ruger, I would check with Gunfighters INC to see if they are making a Kenai chest rig for it. But its not a concealment rig.


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If I wanted to carry that Ruger, I would check with Gunfighters INC to see if they are making a Kenai chest rig for it. But its not a concealment rig.


Thanks for the reference YooperSigs. I checked the website of Gunfighters Inc. and they actually make a Custom Kenai chest rig for the Ruger 57. You are right it is not a concealment holster but it is certainly quite interesting looking. On Ruger's accessory website they have quite a few offerings for the 57's holsters. One is made by Mitch Rosen for outside the waistband which is normally how I carry my main firearm. I am always wearing some type of jacket or vest even in the summer so I could conceal the firearm, though it would just be more difficult. I may have to wear my shirt outside my pants while wearing a vest for summer carry.

My big concern is that it may be years before the ammo prices come down so I can afford enough ammunition to properly break in the gun according to my standards and practice with it. I like to get to know a gun as much as possible so I really feel comfortable with a carry gun after I have shot a thousand rounds through. Many people disagree with me and feel that 50 rounds or few hundred is adequate but I would like to see how the firearm performs over a longer time. It also allows me to practice and get comfortable with the firearm.

Anyway here is a link to the Ruger website holsters if you are interested in looking at them. Thanks again.

https://shopruger.com/Ruger-57/products/5214/


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I'm a 5.7 addict. I've had them in various forms since the first PS90 was available. I've shot tens of thousands of rounds of 5.7 which I think is a bit above average. I don't want to start a caliber war but there is not a chance I would consider 5.7 with the ammo we can get the best cc option in a pistol. none. and there is zero chance I would pay the current rates for enough to practice.


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My big concern is that it may be years before the ammo prices come down so I can afford enough ammunition to properly break in the gun according to my standards and practice with it.

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Nothing lasts forever. I have a ton of 5.7 ammmo that I acquired at decent prices. Supply and demand. I have the FN and found it needed no break in and it was easy to be accurate. It is rather like shooting a 22 lr.
 
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My big concern is that it may be years before the ammo prices come down so I can afford enough ammunition to properly break in the gun according to my standards and practice with it.

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Nothing lasts forever. I have a ton of 5.7 ammmo that I acquired at decent prices. Supply and demand. I have the FN and found it needed no break in and it was easy to be accurate. It is rather like shooting a 22 lr.


Thanks you for your encouragement that are ammo shortage will not last forever because while it is going on and one is going through it it seems like it will never go away. I agree the 5.7 x 28mm is a soft shooter.


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The Ruger 57 at 8.5 inches a shoulder holster might be the way to go.


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Yes abnmacv, At 8.5 inches the Ruger 57 is a little long for an outside the waistband holster. It can be done but the pistol will be below the belt a bit. It would work well in a vertical shoulder holster.


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I'm a 5.7 addict. I've had them in various forms since the first PS90 was available. I've shot tens of thousands of rounds of 5.7 which I think is a bit above average. I don't want to start a caliber war but there is not a chance I would consider 5.7 with the ammo we can get the best cc option in a pistol. none. and there is zero chance I would pay the current rates for enough to practice.


I am not sure what you mean by this sentence? "... but there is not a chance I would consider 5.7 with the ammo we can get the best cc option in a pistol. none." Are you saying that the 5.7 ammo is not adequate for self-defense or is it that the cost of it is just too prohibitive to purchase at this time?


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Both. We don't get good self defense 5.7 ammo easily and when I looked online the price of the even the not so good stuff was well above $1.50 per round. It makes no sense to practice at that price. And the round without the best stuff is ho hum. I wouldn't carry it versus other choices. But that's just me.


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Don’t take this as gospel but IIRC the Ruger 57 doesn’t have a firing pin block safety. If I am mistaken, I apologize. That said I don’t think I would want to carry a firearm without that at least with my modern 2020 choices.

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Yup, the current cost of 5.7 ammo is going to be the prohibitive factor for most folks. We had a couple of 57s come in over the past 3-4 months and frankly it's just too expensive for me to feed, otherwise I likely would've bought one of them. I keep watching the GB listings for the ammo and it seems like there are A LOT of persons desperate enough to seriously overpay to feed their 5.7 guns. These crazed days a buck-fifty per round seems like a good price, but not for me. Too rich for my blood.


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I have a buddy who is only allowed to carry a sidearm and 2 extra magazines.

During last Summers peaceful riots, he carried his FN 5.7 with 61 rounds.


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Yes abnmacv, At 8.5 inches the Ruger 57 is a little long for an outside the waistband holster. It can be done but the pistol will be below the belt a bit. It would work well in a vertical shoulder holster.


It's the same overall length as a full size 1911, just a little taller in the grip and a little thicker. Or, between a G17 and G34. So, if you can carry one of the others...
 
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Don’t take this as gospel but IIRC the Ruger 57 doesn’t have a firing pin block safety. If I am mistaken, I apologize. That said I don’t think I would want to carry a firearm without that at least with my modern 2020 choices.

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That was my concern also when I took the Ruger apart and did not see a firing block safety. I checked Ruger's website, however, and in the FAQ section they address all safety issues with the 57.

Here is a link to the page of FAQs and I have also provided the information below. It is quite interesting but Ruger seems to comprehensively cover the safety and lack of firemen block issue. Unless I am missing something from the information they have listed it seems safe and drop safe. Your thoughts are welcome.

https://www.ruger.com/dataProcess/customerService/

"What safety devices are incorporated into the design of the Ruger-57™ pistol?
Safety is always a key consideration for our design engineers and the Ruger-57™ pistol is a testament to that fact. Among other things, the Ruger-57™ pistol incorporates our Secure Action™ fire-control system, which utilizes Ruger's safe, reliable, and proven internal hammer design and results in a short, smooth trigger pull and positive reset.

The internal hammer cannot be contacted or directly struck, therefore lessening the chances that the hammer falls or "jars off" without the trigger being pulled. The fire-control system incorporates a short-pull, double-action (not a single-action) design, meaning that the hammer is not fully cocked until the trigger is pulled. This keeps the hammer and sear securely engaged under the full force of the main spring, and the hammer must travel slightly rearward with a trigger pull in order to compress the main spring before it can release.

The Ruger-57™ pistol's hammer and sear geometry were designed with significant engagement for positive lockup. The sear is neutrally balanced and under strong spring tension, which helps prevent disengagement, including during an accidental drop of the firearm. In the unlikely event that a significant shock to the pistol results in disengagement of the hammer from the sear, the design incorporates a hammer catch to help prevent the hammer from contacting the lightweight firing pin. Our testing confirms that this design passes or exceeds all industry standards and is very safe from discharge due to a drop, all without the need for a firing pin blocker.

The Ruger-57™ pistol features an ambidextrous manual safety that locks the trigger bar when the safety is in the "on" position, thereby preventing the trigger from being pulled. The safety locks the slide in closed when in the "on" position. The trigger cannot be pulled and the slide cannot be retracted with the safety "on.

Finally, the Ruger-57™ pistol's design features a bladed trigger safety that prevents the trigger from moving rearward without intentionally being pulled."


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Yup, the current cost of 5.7 ammo is going to be the prohibitive factor for most folks. We had a couple of 57s come in over the past 3-4 months and frankly it's just too expensive for me to feed, otherwise I likely would've bought one of them. I keep watching the GB listings for the ammo and it seems like there are A LOT of persons desperate enough to seriously overpay to feed their 5.7 guns. These crazed days a buck-fifty per round seems like a good price, but not for me. Too rich for my blood.


I agree with you monoblok and at the current prices I am not going be buying any ammunition for my 57. One gun store manager who sold a 22 for me suggested that I keep the 57 when I asked him to sell mine. He stated that eventually there eventually there will be 5.7 ammunition at reasonable prices as with other ammunition. I would just have to wait until that happens.

I believe this ammunition shortage is worse than the one in 2012 and may very well last longer. Of course, my statement is my opinion and speculative and I am sure in 2012 many thought that was the worst ammunition shortage and would probably last longer than thought. With shortages eventually peoples create stockpiles with which they feel comfortable and also become tired of paying high prices for ammunition. When the demand drops and production increases prices should fall. I believe the ammunition shortage right now is similar to the stock market or weather, it is hard to predict what will happen since there are too many unknown variables.

Thanks for the post.


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Please correct me if I am wrong but I remember the last ammunition shortage starting in the fall of 2012 and then in 2016 we started to see prices returning to normal and eventually falling.


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Yes abnmacv, At 8.5 inches the Ruger 57 is a little long for an outside the waistband holster. It can be done but the pistol will be below the belt a bit. It would work well in a vertical shoulder holster.


It's the same overall length as a full size 1911, just a little taller in the grip and a little thicker. Or, between a G17 and G34. So, if you can carry one of the others...


I like your reference points for the Ruger 57 LeftySig. At one time I was going to buy Glock 17 for concealed carry and actually tried one on in the store the holster. I have conceal carry firearms such as the HK P30L which is 7.71 inches in length. Yes the Ruger 57 can be concealed but one just needs to be a little more conscious about their outer garments for cover.

Of course if the Ruger 57 could be made with a 4 inch barrel and still produce the same ballistics I would be happy but I understand that is beyond the laws of physics since the 5.7 round is effective because of the high velocity that it achieves and it only achieves it in a longer barrel.


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A good 5.7 round comparison for CCW if desired.

https://youtu.be/kh_WxeOAcxo
 
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Both. We don't get good self defense 5.7 ammo easily and when I looked online the price of the even the not so good stuff was well above $1.50 per round. It makes no sense to practice at that price. And the round without the best stuff is ho hum. I wouldn't carry it versus other choices. But that's just me.


I am curious what do you consider to be good 5.7X28mm ammo? Are you referring to the FNSS197?


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