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What a magnificent Colt!!!!


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Very handsome. I wonder if Turnbulls are what a car collector calls "overrestored" and look better than new.

Call me a nitpicker but they have some funny ideas in their description, though.

Key design elements of the Model 1905 include:
Short-Recoil, Tilting-Barrel Action: A precursor to the system that would become standard in the Model 1911, though lacking the later refinements of a barrel link and bushing.

**The barrel does not tilt. This is one of the "parallel ruler" guns, the barrel drops straight down to unlock. The "later refinement" was to omit the front link of two and go to a tilting movement.


Single-Action Trigger: A consistent feature of Browning’s early semi-automatics, requiring manual cocking of the hammer before firing.

**Only if you consider racking the slide to chamber the first round to be "manual cocking." I don't.

Internal Extractor and Fixed Ejector: Features that would see further evolution in later designs.


**There's the external extractor looking you right in the eye.
 
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Originally posted by Jim Watson:
Very handsome. I wonder if Turnbulls are what a car collector calls "overrestored" and look better than new.



They have a few different levels of restoring.
Some are just a regular job, others go way beyond! They do some incredible work!

But then again, I’m a sucker for case hardening and old school engraving.

One of these days, probably for a retirement gift to myself, I would like a nice .357 lever action and a S&W Mod-19, send it off to Turnbull.


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Someone need to point Turnbull to the C&Rsenal web site. Because as noted the tilting barrel was introduced a few years later than the 1905. BTW, per the C&Rsenal video the grip angle of the 1900-1907 variants increased the perceived recoil and the 1905 was pretty brutal.

I'll also note the base design of the "1900" was licensed to Colt and most of the design detail elements were the product of Colt Engineers. It was in the time frame of 1909 when John Browning stepped back in and did a complete re-design that led to the 1910 and then the 1911 we know today.


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Single-Action Trigger: A consistent feature of Browning’s early semi-automatics, requiring manual cocking of the hammer before firing.

**Only if you consider racking the slide to chamber the first round to be "manual cocking." I don't.


The Colt 1905s were intended at the time to be carried with a round in the chamber but the hammer either down or in the half-cock position, and if carried in this way the user would then need to manually cock the hammer to full before firing the first shot:

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The manual thumb safety found on M1911 pistols is not present on the M1905; nor is there a grip safety (except on some models used for military experimentation). Still, the pistol has two significant safety mechanisms which enable one to carry the M1905 ready for service and, if desired, loaded with a cartridge in the chamber.

First, the pistol incorporates a half-cock hammer position. That safety is not so reliable that it should be depended upon exclusively. The second safety, and the key component in this regard, is the firing pin type of Browning's own design. It is short enough that the hammer can rest against it without pushing the pin against the primer of a cartridge in the chamber. The hammer can even theoretically sustain a blow from the rear while in this down position with the energy being transferred to the entire breechblock instead of to the firing pin. The firing pin must receive a sharp blow from the hammer before it will strike the cartridge primer and cause ignition. Thus, according to the design, the pistol can be carried safely with a cartridge in the chamber and the hammer down. The hammer needs only to be cocked manually in traditional single-action style before firing.

(While this is the design and intent, it should be noted that such "safety" leaves much to be desired.)
 
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I know, but I read a reprint of a period magazine article that said you COULD do that but it was really only necessary to insert a magazine because "an easy motion of the slide" would ready it to fire. Condition 3 in the Naughts.
 
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