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I have never shot one but I have always been curious. My buddies dad died and I have a chance to buy one that looks like it was fired under 100 times. His dad was a hoarder and had lots of guns. Mostly Korean War rifles that I have no interest in. I already have multiple 9’s but not a Beretta and it has a 5” barrel. This would give me 3 hammer fired 9’s vs only 2 striker fired ones. I would have to balance it out at some point.
For those that have shot them are they worth the buy for an extra range toy? Do they compare well with the 3rd generation 9’s that I love?
 
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I have had the Beretta 92S with smooth wood grips …since late 1982. I have shot it some , but no more than 1300 rounds. Around 800 rounds , it with me pulling the trigger placed second in a pistol competition.( IDPA rules) I had the single action worked to a 3 # pull. I highlighted the sights with iridescent paint dots. They still suck. Get you friends pistol if affordable. Good Range gun.


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It's more than a good range gun, it's a darn fine weapon, the older ones are better. The front sight could use some work, I bored a small hole and made it a white dot. Reliability, Clean or dirty it just works with decent ammo and factory/military mags. Mine is more than combat accurate, I shoot the Q right out of a qualifying target and soda cans are DOA. The trigger spring broke once in 35 years and at least 15K rounds, probably many more.

If push comes to shove, the 92 would be the first one I would grab, there are a few others but the Berretta fills the important check boxes..

What kind of Korean War rifles?

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Interesting, I was just looking at a 92S in my LGS and we had one as range gun at one of my duty stations.

It's a reliable pistol as most M92S are. I wouldn't specifically seek it, I perfer the magazine release position on the 92FS more, but if it's a decent price, I'd pick it up. You could always flip it to a beretta collector if you don't like it.

What I would look into, If I were you, is if it can take a current generation locking block. The locking block is one of the high wear parts in the 92 family. Beretta has worked through at least 4 generations that I am aware of.
 
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What I would look into, If I were you, is if it can take a current generation locking block. The locking block is one of the high wear parts in the 92 family. Beretta has worked through at least 4 generations that I am aware of.
Yes, and IIRC the S doesn't have the later modification that was made to prevent the rear half of the slide busting you in the teeth if it breaks in half, as happened during the SEALs trials (or whatever military trials). Probably beat to hell and not maintained and likely using high-pressure ammo, but I'd still replace the recoil spring every 3-5K and look at the locking block and slide closely every few hundred rounds. I would have no problem owning or shooting a 92S in good shape.


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It's more than a good range gun, it's a darn fine weapon, the older ones are better. The front sight could use some work, I bored a small hole and made it a white dot. Reliability, Clean or dirty it just works with decent ammo and factory/military mags. Mine is more than combat accurate, I shoot the Q right out of a qualifying target and soda cans are DOA. The trigger spring broke once in 35 years and at least 15K rounds, probably many more.

If push comes to shove, the 92 would be the first one I would grab, there are a few others but the Berretta fills the important check boxes..

What kind of Korean War rifles?

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I’m definitely going to buy it. He would give it to me but I insist on buying it. There were over 70 rifles in the house and many were loaded. 37 pistols. I had to unload it all for him as he is not into weapons. Admittedly, I’m not into rifles so I know nothing about what he had. It looked like crap to me. I put him in touch with an old police armorer buddy who worked out a deal to buy it all except the Beretta and a few Glock
pistols.
My old police buddy said some of the rifles were Ariskas. Nothing I had ever heard of. I had no interest in them so did not pay much attention when they talked about those. There was a Japanese sniper rifle that may have value. No clue what it was though. I was hoping for some 1911’s but there was not a single one. I’ll be happy with the Beretta and the ammo I got.
 
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What I would look into, If I were you, is if it can take a current generation locking block. The locking block is one of the high wear parts in the 92 family. Beretta has worked through at least 4 generations that I am aware of.
Yes, and IIRC the S doesn't have the later modification that was made to prevent the rear half of the slide busting you in the teeth if it breaks in half, as happened during the SEALs trials (or whatever military trials). Probably beat to hell and not maintained and likely using high-pressure ammo, but I'd still replace the recoil spring every 3-5K and look at the locking block and slide closely every few hundred rounds. I would have no problem owning or shooting a 92S in good shape.


IIRC you are correct, the 92S doesn't have the oversized hammer pin head that interfaces with the bottom of the slide. I believe that was introduced with the 92FS after the M9 pistol issues arose. Personally, I don't see that as a major issue. The GAO report on the 92 slide failures can be found on-line. I don't have a copy at my desk, but IIRC they tracked the failed guns down by serial number and there was only one 92SB that failed (it wasn't an M9). The report associated a high round count with that pistol.
 
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Some of them DO INDEED have the enlarged hammer pin



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Some of them DO INDEED have the enlarged hammer pin

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Only a few aresenal/factory reworks. The S never had the big pin and slot from the factory as built.
Interesting stuff, thanks for posting.
 
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It's more than a good range gun, it's a darn fine weapon, the older ones are better. The front sight could use some work, I bored a small hole and made it a white dot. Reliability, Clean or dirty it just works with decent ammo and factory/military mags. Mine is more than combat accurate, I shoot the Q right out of a qualifying target and soda cans are DOA. The trigger spring broke once in 35 years and at least 15K rounds, probably many more.

If push comes to shove, the 92 would be the first one I would grab, there are a few others but the Berretta fills the important check boxes..

What kind of Korean War rifles?

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I’m definitely going to buy it. He would give it to me but I insist on buying it. There were over 70 rifles in the house and many were loaded. 37 pistols. I had to unload it all for him as he is not into weapons. Admittedly, I’m not into rifles so I know nothing about what he had. It looked like crap to me. I put him in touch with an old police armorer buddy who worked out a deal to buy it all except the Beretta and a few Glock
pistols.
My old police buddy said some of the rifles were Ariskas. Nothing I had ever heard of. I had no interest in them so did not pay much attention when they talked about those. There was a Japanese sniper rifle that may have value. No clue what it was though. I was hoping for some 1911’s but there was not a single one. I’ll be happy with the Beretta and the ammo I got.


Did ya get it? They are fine pistols, work very reliably, and are very accurate. I used to shoot Bullseye competition with my first 92FS, kicked butt.
 
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I picked a 92S --surplus , was at a good price. Looked to be in good shape except for the grips. Ordered a set of wood grips from Altamont. Traced the mag release area that needed to be removed. Great gun--at a great price.
 
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Did ya get it? They are fine pistols, work very reliably, and are very accurate. I used to shoot Bullseye competition with my first 92FS, kicked butt.[/QUOTE]
I have not picked it up yet but I told him I would buy it. He said I could have it for dinner at Fogo De Chao. I hope he doesn’t drink much as that could get costly
 
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Ha …. As I recall , Harris publications put out something in 1981 -82 that stated the reliability of the 92S & newly designed 92SB. Big pics of 30 plus guns the ammo used to test them. Beretta then was rated top tier, U could bet UR Life on one or the other. Just because 300 other 9mm’s were made in 40 years, doesn’t degrade the quality of a highly rated pistol. New & improved does not erase the attributes of tried & true.


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Traded off my 92S for a 92SB. Use it a lot but changing the recoil spring regularly is a MUST. I also have a few locking blocks on hand. If I notice anything out of the ordinary the block gets pitched. My 92SB has a great finish and trigger right out of the box.
 
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Just because 300 other 9mm’s were made in 40 years, doesn’t degrade the quality of a highly rated pistol. New & improved does not erase the attributes of tried & true.


So many people forget or ignore this while they jump to buy the latest and greatest for no other reason than they are the latest and greatest. Thanks for posting.
 
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Just because 300 other 9mm’s were made in 40 years, doesn’t degrade the quality of a highly rated pistol. New & improved does not erase the attributes of tried & true.


So many people forget or ignore this while they jump to buy the latest and greatest for no other reason than they are the latest and greatest. Thanks for posting.

This is so true. Marketing can get a lot of us to move on things. I used to be a huge S&W guy. Still am but HK and Sig first. I love my Gen 3 S&W semi autos. I’m not a fan of the new M&Ps though. Good but not great like the Gen 3s. Newer is not always better.
 
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...The GAO report on the 92 slide failures can be found on-line. I don't have a copy at my desk, but IIRC they tracked the failed guns down by serial number and there was only one 92SB that failed (it wasn't an M9). The report associated a high round count with that pistol.


In 2014, I personally witnessed a 92F fail at a KMTC range in Afghanistan. The rear of the slide hit the shooter right below his eye, cutting the skin and giving him a black eye. The shooter was a Columbian army officer, who was "helping" coalition forces. It is unclear who issued him the pistol--he did not speak much English--but the armorers said they didn't issue it to him and suspected it was US military aid to Columbia since it had not been retrofitted to 92FS. I have some pics of it on a hard drive somewhere.


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