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Originally posted by Chowser:
A few places have it up for preorder for $650. Primary Arms has it for $550 for LEOs.

I haven't decided if I want to upgrade my current RM06. If I can get work to pay for one for me to try, maybe. But I'm waiting for the chief to retire so we can make the RMRs optional. I think 90% of us are taking them off.

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Originally posted by sig 226:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chowser:

You speaking about a personally owned gun I assume?

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Originally posted by Chowser:
A few places have it up for preorder for $650. Primary Arms has it for $550 for LEOs.

I haven't decided if I want to upgrade my current RM06. If I can get work to pay for one for me to try, maybe. But I'm waiting for the chief to retire so we can make the RMRs optional. I think 90% of us are taking them off.

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Originally posted by Chowser:
Guys refuse to train with them. Assistant Chief doesn’t like them.
I’m constantly telling people to go down and practice with someone. Unlimited ammo. Unlimited range time. No go.

We haven’t had any issues with the rmrs breaking down.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
I mean they all look stupid on top of a pistol. Might as well be a mailbox with the enclosed benefits and common mounting footprint.

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Originally posted by Chowser:

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Originally posted by sig 226:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chowser:

You speaking about a personally owned gun I assume?

I have the adjustable RM06 on my personal gun. At work we have the autoadjust only version and when I barely passed instructor school (found out I have an astigmatism), I convinced work to get me the adjustable version as well. I already had lasik twice and my corneas couldn’t take another lasing so instead of glasses, I got the adjustable one on my duty gun as well.

Chief pretty much just says okay if I explain it a little.
I actually got him to approve almost half a mil this year to redo our range which was built in the 60s.

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Originally posted by sig 226:


Off topic - which plate did you use, OEM or aftermarket?

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Originally posted by jljones:

And this may be the downfall for agency wide deployment.

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Originally posted by DanH:
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The deal breakers are the price. MSRP for both is listed at $849. There is no way the RMR HD is worth $849 when Sig can make the RomeoX in the US, be smaller and just as tough, and sell it for $480 sticker price.

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Originally posted by reloader-1:

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Originally posted by DanH:
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The deal breakers are the price. MSRP for both is listed at $849. There is no way the RMR HD is worth $849 when Sig can make the RomeoX in the US, be smaller and just as tough, and sell it for $480 sticker price.

I had to laugh.

SiG isn’t making anything in the US, the Romeo-X is made in South Korea and “assembled” (read: a few screws tightened) in the US. That’s why you get a price differential with something that is made and sourced entirely in the US.

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Originally posted by Chowser:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sig 226:


Off topic - which plate did you use, OEM or aftermarket?

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Originally posted by DaBigBR:
The issue with the RMR HD will be that with some Safariland stuff the "chin" will strike the ALS mechanism. I have no issue with my SRO in a 7360RDS and 7390RDS that I own. It is entirely possible that there are rolling changes introduced by Safariland that will result in inconsistent compatibility.

Aaron Cowan's RCR review is up for Patreon subscribers and the RCR fit fine for him in a 7TS RDS holster. I have seen others demoing the RCR working in the 63XX RDS holsters.

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Originally posted by monoblok:

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Originally posted by reloader-1:

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Originally posted by DanH:
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The deal breakers are the price. MSRP for both is listed at $849. There is no way the RMR HD is worth $849 when Sig can make the RomeoX in the US, be smaller and just as tough, and sell it for $480 sticker price.

I had to laugh.

SiG isn’t making anything in the US, the Romeo-X is made in South Korea and “assembled” (read: a few screws tightened) in the US. That’s why you get a price differential with something that is made and sourced entirely in the US.

Trijicon is no different. They buy their glass from Light Optics Works out of Japan. And as to where they buy their microchips and related circuitry bits and bobs from...it wouldn't shock me if any if not all of that was sourced from an East Asian ally as well.

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Originally posted by jljones:
Chowser,

I have always resisted being that guy in an agency that has the little empire of dirt that just says “We’re doing it this way cause I say so”. When I was coming up, it pissed me off because we had people like that and I know it pissed everyone off. We were one of the first larger agencies in the state to authorize red dots for personal purchase. Since that time, about 30 percent of the workforce have went the way of the dot. Plus all of the guys that are from other agencies on our regional SRT.

My original hope was that we’d some day go full deployment but 8 or so years into this, I really don’t think it’s a good idea. And the rank and file get to train a lot by LE standards.

We have adopted an SOP called “selective enhancement” that outlines what modifications officers can request to make of their duty firearms. Stuff like AR VFGs, some stocks, a select few optics changes on ARs, they can make themselves with approval. But, most all other stuff has to be approved and then completed by a department armorer.

I say a select few optics because cops are cheap. We had problems years ago with people buying cheap Amazon optics for their ARs, and they were surprised when they went to the range and it performed like a cheap optic. Now, if they want to ditch their issued Vortex, they can only choose from a narrow list of approved optics from Vortex, Aimpoint and EoTech. And that’s it. SRT is swapping to EoTech from the 15 year old Aimpoints in the near future.

Pistol optics are limited to the RMR06 or 07 only.

Every time someone wants to make a change I try to be objective and see if it makes sense. Sometimes we can get it approved, sometimes not. But, cops as you well know buy stuff to hang on their guns for all the wrong reasons. Does it make them a better shooter? If the answe is no, well then……

I trained with Nashville PD a couple of months ago and they said about 35 percent of 1500 officers were running dots. Maybe that number is about right?

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He said who authorized that? I said you let your designee authorize whatever he thinks is okay and I looked in the mirror and said go ahead and get it stippled.