I really like the Riton 3 Tactix for a budget red dot. Also the Romeo Zero can be found on sale sometimes. Keep an eye out and give one a try. I used to get the Riton real cheap off Bereli, not sure if they still carry them.

Howdy.

The 407K/507K are good dots for these guns, HOWEVER, Glock uses a strict RMSc cut, which uses four recoil bosses. The 407K and 507K only use the front bosses and the recesses for them in the optic are too shallow. That leaves you either having to buy a plate that will adapt the the Glock cut to work or have the Glock cut modified by milling out the rear bosses and shortening the fronts.

The Holosun EPS Carry is an option as well and it includes the necessary adapter plate. It is a shame they don't include it with the others. The EPS Carry is also an enclosed emitter, which I don't think is a terrible idea. The price difference is a little more than the difference between a 407K and plate.

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Originally posted by iron chef:
You can get a Holosun 407K for under $200. The main difference between the 407 & 507 is that the 507 offers multiple reticles. If you're OK w/ just a plain 6MOA dot, then the 407 will suffice.

A Swampfox Liberty requires an RMR footprint adapter plate, as it's designed for compact & full size guns.

As 92fstech posted, check w/ SF member DaBigBR on pricing. His website is:
http://www.bvarms.us/

I finally broke down and purchased a Holosun for a P365 XL and went with the 407K as I prefer the dot over the other reticle options of the 507K. I paid $185 OTD for the green dot version that carries about a $20 premium over the red dot. As much as I wanted to avoid Holosun, I have been extremely impressed by a neighbors Holosun optic. All of my other potential carry optic pistols have Trijicon RMRs. The 407k was the first compact optic that I purchased. The more I train with an optic the closer I come to potentially CCW one.

Hey Mark, email inbound to you.

I have an EPS carry on the 48 MOS thats on my hip at the moment. Great sight.

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Originally posted by iron chef:
You can get a Holosun 407K for under $200. The main difference between the 407 & 507 is that the 507 offers multiple reticles. If you're OK w/ just a plain 6MOA dot, then the 407 will suffice.

A Swampfox Liberty requires an RMR footprint adapter plate, as it's designed for compact & full size guns.

As 92fstech posted, check w/ SF member DaBigBR on pricing. His website is:
http://www.bvarms.us/

I finally broke down and purchased a Holosun for a P365 XL and went with the 407K as I prefer the dot over the other reticle options of the 507K. I paid $185 OTD for the green dot version that carries about a $20 premium over the red dot. As much as I wanted to avoid Holosun, I have been extremely impressed by a neighbors Holosun optic. All of my other potential carry optic pistols have Trijicon RMRs. The 407k was the first compact optic that I purchased. The more I train with an optic the closer I come to potentially CCW one.

I 100% get why people try to avoid them, but they have moved the pistol optics industry forward since probably 2020.

They...

-Put out the first durable, waterproof micro optic with the 407K and 507K.

-Delivered the first decent enclosed pistol optic with the 509T. The Acro P1 was a huge disappointment and the 509T beat it on all of its failures.

-Developed the first "normal" size enclosed emitter, first "micro" enclosed emitter, and first enclosed emitter to use a legacy footprint with the EPS and EPS Carry. These optics also eliminated the need for tall sights on a lot of guns.

-Released the first direct to factory footprint optics with the SCS line. The SCS is also the first fully self-contained electronic pistol optic. It is fully self charging and had the best auto brightness on the market until the RMR HD shipped three years later.

-Created an affordable, durable, large window optic in the 507comp. I like the SRO fine, but the 507comp doesn't have the chin that the SRO does or the terrible switching of the DPP.

-The only manufacturer pushing green emitters en masse. Essential for people like me with some red color vision deficiency.

-The first manufacturer putting selectable reticles in a pistol sight.

-The same essentially no questions asked warranty program you see with American and European manufacturers.

And they're doing all of this significantly cheaper than their competitors. I'm unapologetic about buying their products because they're doing things nobody is doing, they're doing things first, and they're doing them cheaper and often better.

There are plenty of cheap crap Chinese products out there, but Holosun just isn't one. My sample size of various Holosun pistol optics is now probably a couple hundred between my stuff and stuff that my friends and coworkers own and several hundred more in optics shipped to retail customers, including dozens of SF members.

You forgot to mention that they also are run by Communist China, engage in slave labor, and conduct industrial espionage.

All to keep your prices low.

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You forgot to mention that they also are run by Communist China, engage in slave labor, and conduct industrial espionage.

All to keep your prices low.

It’s a dot on a gun. It’s not ideal but if you want to fight this fight, I’m sure you’d have to replace the majority of electronics in your home.

Normally I'm not a fan of Chinese knockoff stuff...but what is Holosun knocking off? They're doing stuff that nobody else is doing, and where they're doing the same things they're often doing them better. Holosun is actually innovating, not just plagiarizing.

I have a couple of Holosun dots, some Sig dots, a Trijicon, an Aimpoint, and a Vortex. The Aimpoint has been rock solid, as have the Holosuns. I can't say the same for any of the others.

I'm sure there's some horrible exploitation of the workforce going on to keep prices as low as they are, and the chicom government is probably getting a cut, too...but the same could be said for pretty much any consumer electronic these days. I don't like supporting it, but the product itself is solid.

I am pretty interested in that new Primary Arms HTX...it offers a number of features that appeal to me, and I like that it's made in the US. The RomeoX looks decent too, and at least it's assembled here. But Holosun has really left the US market needing to catch up.

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Originally posted by jljones:
You forgot to mention that they also are run by Communist China, engage in slave labor, and conduct industrial espionage.

All to keep your prices low.

Yeah, I get it. And when somebody more politically correct produces a dot that I can see as well as I can see their green stuff, I'm all over it. Or when somebody more politically correct actually innovates. Etc.

Get a Holosun 507k from DaBigBR and a C&H Precision optics plate. Put together correctly. Sight in and practice. You will be happy.

I too would like to have a Holosun Optic, but I would need to purchase a new pistol also! I think that is a legitimate reason to do so.
Come on Old Rugged Cross, you own a $25000.00 shovel!

the shovel was more expensive jgerge.

So Brad is going to help me mec out on a 407k.
So am going to go that route. The 6moa dot seems preferred.
For the $ the 407k seems hard to beat. Thanks for the help guys.

Reid, I will email you. Thank you.

Holosun. I have tried green and red dots but now I standardize on red. 507 comp and EPS are my go too's.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
the shovel was more expensive jgerge.

So Brad is going to help me mec out on a 407k.
So am going to go that route. The 6moa dot seems preferred.
For the $ the 407k seems hard to beat. Thanks for the help guys.

Reid, I will email you. Thank you.

Good choice. I believe the only difference between the 407 and 507 is that the 407 is just a red dot but the 507 also lets you toggle to a Multi-Reticle Sight (MRS). So if you would rather just have a red dot, you can save some bucks with the 407 over the 507.