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Originally posted by GJM AK:

Two things coming that serious small revolver fans will want.

You have my interest, although I'm not sure why so cagey with the details? Are you bound by an NDA? If so, can you at least share if whatever it is will be available to purchase in the near future, or will actual production be years out? It sucks when they dangle something cool in front of you that you can't actually find in a store until two years after they release it, if ever.

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Originally posted by 92fstech:

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Originally posted by GJM AK:

Two things coming that serious small revolver fans will want.

You have my interest, although I'm not sure why so cagey with the details? Are you bound by an NDA? If so, can you at least share if whatever it is will be available to purchase in the near future, or will actual production be years out? It sucks when they dangle something cool in front of you that you can't actually find in a store until two years after they release it, if ever.

Seconded.

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I would pick the choice you didn't offer:

Wait until SHOT later this month.

Maybe a little more info would be helpful?

Two things coming that serious small revolver fans will want.

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There should be an announcement Sunday afternoon.

Look for a video from Lipsey's after noon central Sunday.

I know that Coch of Tactical Hyve and his own channel “PFI Coch” he was a SEAL then worked in devgru then was a shooting instructor at BUDS for years. Has said he’s got a deal for a Lipsey’s special revolver with S&W. He had to trademark his nickname.

What’s funny is his dad was my high school history teacher ( proud dad would talk of his navy Seal son, and circa 1990 16-17 year old high school boys would hand on every word) and everyone called him Coch as well.

Well, its cool enough I guess. But my Wiley Clapp model of the SP-101 seems to be very similar.
I wonder what the cost would be?

I believe street price right around $700, available late February.

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https://youtu.be/24b7MvVaL4I?si=ZepLsFWXEqQ0t8kB

Well, you didn't disappoint! That is awesome! Freaking devious of them to release it in .32 H&R Mag, too, because now I want one of both lol.

I like just about everything about that. Usable sights (although I think I'd prefer a square front post to rounded...still better than the factory 442/642 offering by far, though) and regulated to an ideal ammo selection. If somebody could get Speer to actually produce some of the 135gr Gold Dots and put them on shelves again, that'd be great, but thankfully I still have some components left over from back in the day, and I shoot a ton of wadcutters.

The grips look great, too. I actually really like the factory rubber J-Frame boot grips, but these look like they maintain the same shape while adding some length of pull, which I wouldn't mind at all. I like the shrouded ejector rod, chamfered chambers, and the fact that they left the lock off, too. Titanium pins isn't a bad thing either...I've never had one break but I know it's happened to others, and strengthening them is a nice touch.

Any idea on when these will be available and the expected price?

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Originally posted by GJM AK:
I believe street price right around $700, available late February.

That's really not bad, considering a regular 642 is going for $520-$550 around here.

Well. Not bad. I think I wish the cylinders were cut for moon clips but I’m not sure I care.

Okay. I'm really interested!! Wow, I like!

That looks like an incredible revolver. However, for us here in California, it would need to get submitted for testing and added to our roster. Considering it’s a special release. I don’t know that there will be enough of them made to make that worthwhile for Smith and Wesson. However, if it becomes a regular production item, they will sell like crazy over here… Just a hint, Smith and Wesson…

Nice additions to the Centennial line.

Memo to S&w and lipseys…327 federal is a thing

If they can make the super flyweight guns in 357 I’m sure they can figure out 327. And not cut for moon clips. I’ll keep carrying my plain Jane 642.

My 640 Pro is cut for moon clips. I never use them. Kinda nice on the range (if you had enough of them to load up a bunch and not be clipping rounds in and out of the same ones all the time), but too flimsy for real-world carry applications. For me the chamfered chamber mouths is a more useful and desirable feature.

Jason at Lipsey's made this post in a thread on another forum, and I am putting it here too, as it provides great information.


Hey everyone I was traveling to Vegas for SHOT today and have been getting the booth setup. I’ll try to answer a few questions I’ve seen.

The guns will start shipping to dealers end of February. MSRP is $759 which puts the UC right in the middle of the standard 642 and the M&P 340.

This isn’t a one run and done deal. Our initial order is 1000 of each of the four models. We already have plans for more orders staged throughout the year.

For those disappointed that it’s not a K frame don’t fret, I have a lot more in projects in the queue. The J-Frame was where we could get one done the quickest. I think 2024 and 2025 will be great years for revolver fans.

The 32 vs 38 debate is one I struggled with too until I shot them. After putting hundreds of rounds through both, the 32 is around 30% less felt recoil in my opinion. Way easier to get quick hits. The 38 with wadcutters running 750 fps or so isn’t bad but the same 32 100gr wadcutter at 800 fps is noticeably softer to shoot. 32 S&W Long is like a 22 LR recoil wise and would be a great choice for practice or the super recoil sensitive shooter.

Sight regulation is something we spent a long time on and shot everything from 110gr to 158gr +P in the 38. The 130’s gr ammo along with 148 Wadcutter ammo hit dead on out to 15 yards. As you get out to 25 yards the bullets impact a couple inches high. This actually works well because a slight six o clock hold puts the round where you want them and you can see the target better. The 110gr -125gr ammo only shot a couple inches low at 15 yards and the 158’s only shot a couple inches high at 15. I think the new grips allow a higher hold on the gun and helps reduce the muzzle rise thus decreasing the bigger disparities in point of impact.

For the 32’s we shot everything from Double Tap 60gr all copper loads to heavy 120gr hard cast. Same phenomenon here. The 60gr stuff shot about 3” low at 15 and the 120’s shot 2 to 3” high at 15. 85gr to 100gr ammo shot to the sights at 15. The 32 Long ammo shot to the sights as well.

I had Darryl Bolke and Bryan Eastridge come down to help with the sight regulation shoot. I wanted several experienced shooters to shoot the same guns with the same loads to get a consensus. It was cool to see DB, Bryan, Andrew Gore from S&W and myself all put the a cylinder of ammo in the same group. That’s when we knew we had something.

Some people bemoan the two piece barrel but there are some advantages and in my opinion was a better option here. First, the two piece allows the factory to set the cylinder gap more consistently. All the samples I measured came in at .006. The other benefit was Smith could adjust the height of the ramp for sight regulation for the 32 and the 38 and that allowed the use of the same front sight. Working with third parties like XS it makes it easier to have one sight height to contend with.

I hope this answers some of the questions and or concerns. I’m very happy how these turned out. S&W was very accommodating to all my request and they made several trips down with sample guns to make sure they were exactly what we wanted. When I pitch a project to a manufacturer I ask for everything and hope to get 75% of it. This time I got 100% and actually a little more with the Endurance Package.

Thank you for the nice words about the video. Our marketing team worked really hard to get footage of the process from the beginning. For 3 guys they did a great job.

Jason