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Naw, the Glock 48 is a 9mm bullpup carbine that takes G17 & G18 magazines Razz
 
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Of course Glock likes money just like everyone else does, so that alone might kick this silly concept into some form of reality. But I certainly don't see this as being a big seller for them


You could be right. But, reading this ^^^, I can't help but recall almost exactly the same arguments all over the web when Glock was releasing the 19x. Silly proportions, who needs big grip with a small slide, they are just recovering MHS expenses. We all know what happened after.

I think it best to wait'n see what this thing is. I personally have a hell of a time concealing regular thickness Glock slide because of corners and angles. The 43 thickness slide is another story. I've no clue how this 48 gun will conceal comparing to 43, 26, or 19, but it just might prove us wrong, yet again.
 
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You could be right. But, reading this ^^^, I can't help but recall almost exactly the same arguments all over the web when Glock was releasing the 19x. Silly proportions, who needs big grip with a small slide, they are just recovering MHS expenses. We all know what happened after.

What happened afterwards? Neither G19X or G45 seem like runaway home run hits to me. The G19X was hot for about 2 to 3 months, but now barely registers on anyone's wantlist. I can easily restock the G19X at any time, not that I have any need to. That's how slow 19X sales have been of late. The G45's hot sales streak never truly happened. We had plenty to start with, only ran into about a week, maybe two, where restocking was an issue, and now have backstock aplenty because sales too has slowed considerably off its all too short peak stretch. I've only had to restock the gun twice so far, and have only sold two since Black Friday. Meanwhile demand for the small guns like the P365, Shield, G43, etc., continues unabated, along with standard G19s and ESPECIALLY M&P9 Compacts.

Another largish single stack, the XD-E, during the past several months for us has too seen its sales ground into a near halt. No one even asks for that one, not that I'm really complaining given how I feel about Springfield. But among the DA/SA hammer crowd, it at least got some looks but now just is forgotten in our display case. (In case anyone's curious, the only poly Springfields that for us get any consumer interest for them is the XDS (mostly 9mm), the occasional subcomp 9mm Grip Zone, XDM45 4.5 (something akin to cult status gun with this one) and of course the relatively new 4.5 and 5.25 10mm for Glock alternatives to woods carry.)

In this current market for CCW, 'large' is not-at-all unless hi-cap comes with it. We can't move P225s any more to save our skins; it's become like the P239 all over again. Expensive (relatively) and hindered by low capacity. A S&W Shield at far more than 1/2 less the cost does the same firepower, and has a relatively easy-to-learn trigger. Plus it can be had with a thumb safety, because I've found that people who generally want thumb safeties don't honestly care what kind of trigger action a gun has. It could come with a 20lb DA pull weight, but if it don't have a thumb safety...it's an automatic no-sale.

Even 1911 sales have been sluggish, during a time of the year when 1911s have traditionally done well. They invoke that 'Christmas present to myself' vibe all too often...except not THIS year. Maybe it's due to the political climate in WA state, where 'hi-cap' jitters are taking hold and the desire to grandfather large firepower is becoming more pervasive.

I've of course gotten off-track when it comes to the idea of a striker large single-stack like the G48. So let's get back on track: I know there's a vocal few that have quite aloud longed for a single stack version of the G19 frame. But what I've been seeing and learning about the current sales realities, from a volume sales side I simply can't see this design being a huge hit, not with the ample evidence showing that the trend of the marketplace overwhelmingly wants all-important capacity for a foot print of that size. M&P9 Compact 2.0s with Gen4 and Gen5 G19s with their 15+1 absolutely dominate this landscape. Plus when a P365, Shield 9mm, PPS M2 and perhaps the still vaporware G43X can or will carry the same number of rounds if not more, a single stack G19ish gun is at best only a niche piece of the puzzle.
 
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I’m not sure if it’s possible but I’ll take one in 357Sig.
 
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You could be right. But, reading this ^^^, I can't help but recall almost exactly the same arguments all over the web when Glock was releasing the 19x. Silly proportions, who needs big grip with a small slide, they are just recovering MHS expenses. We all know what happened after.

What happened afterwards? Neither G19X or G45 seem like runaway home run hits to me. The G19X was hot for about 2 to 3 months, but now barely registers on anyone's wantlist. I can easily restock the G19X at any time, not that I have any need to. That's how slow 19X sales have been of late. The G45's hot sales streak never truly happened. We had plenty to start with, only ran into about a week, maybe two, where restocking was an issue, and now have backstock aplenty because sales too has slowed considerably off its all too short peak stretch. I've only had to restock the gun twice so far, and have only sold two since Black Friday. Meanwhile demand for the small guns like the P365, Shield, G43, etc., continues unabated, along with standard G19s and ESPECIALLY M&P9 Compacts.

Another largish single stack, the XD-E, during the past several months for us has too seen its sales ground into a near halt. No one even asks for that one, not that I'm really complaining given how I feel about Springfield. But among the DA/SA hammer crowd, it at least got some looks but now just is forgotten in our display case. (In case anyone's curious, the only poly Springfields that for us get any consumer interest for them is the XDS (mostly 9mm), the occasional subcomp 9mm Grip Zone, XDM45 4.5 (something akin to cult status gun with this one) and of course the relatively new 4.5 and 5.25 10mm for Glock alternatives to woods carry.)

In this current market for CCW, 'large' is not-at-all unless hi-cap comes with it. We can't move P225s any more to save our skins; it's become like the P239 all over again. Expensive (relatively) and hindered by low capacity. A S&W Shield at far more than 1/2 less the cost does the same firepower, and has a relatively easy-to-learn trigger. Plus it can be had with a thumb safety, because I've found that people who generally want thumb safeties don't honestly care what kind of trigger action a gun has. It could come with a 20lb DA pull weight, but if it don't have a thumb safety...it's an automatic no-sale.

Even 1911 sales have been sluggish, during a time of the year when 1911s have traditionally done well. They invoke that 'Christmas present to myself' vibe all too often...except not THIS year. Maybe it's due to the political climate in WA state, where 'hi-cap' jitters are taking hold and the desire to grandfather large firepower is becoming more pervasive.

I've of course gotten off-track when it comes to the idea of a striker large single-stack like the G48. So let's get back on track: I know there's a vocal few that have quite aloud longed for a single stack version of the G19 frame. But what I've been seeing and learning about the current sales realities, from a volume sales side I simply can't see this design being a huge hit, not with the ample evidence showing that the trend of the marketplace overwhelmingly wants all-important capacity for a foot print of that size. M&P9 Compact 2.0s with Gen4 and Gen5 G19s with their 15+1 absolutely dominate this landscape. Plus when a P365, Shield 9mm, PPS M2 and perhaps the still vaporware G43X can or will carry the same number of rounds if not more, a single stack G19ish gun is at best only a niche piece of the puzzle.


Your perspective seems to be that of a firearms retailer. My perspective is that of an enthusiast, and so I am excited that Glock is offering choices between the 43 and full size pistols. I also happen to think that the 19X and 45 are two of the best pistols Glock has made.
 
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Your perspective seems to be that of a firearms retailer.

I do tend to look at things from a business perspective, mainly because from the enthusiast POV it gets rather mushy with emotions, lusting and all that gooey stuff. Wink I admit there's a measure of 'bean counter' in how I approach things these days. Hard not to have some of that when you're in any part of this industry.

If the G48 is what Recoil.com says it is and it comes to actual fruition, then for those few who've been clamoring for that G19-size single stack I couldn't be happier for them. But the way I see it, this would be so unlike Glock to make such a limited audience gun. Certainly no agency of today would entertain such a firearm, although it likely would be approved for off-duty carry. But again, why would anyone choose that if the shorter G43X offers the same capacity?

A 'G48' as decribed by Recoil.com continues to make zero sense to me. Not from the business side nor from a practical perspective.
 
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As I understand it, the G43X and 48 share the same ten round lower, and are different in that the 43X has a 43 length slide, where the 48 has a 4.1 +/- inch long barrel and correspondingly longer slide.

For folks that carry AIWB or IWB, I see the 48 being more attractive. For those carrying OWB concealed, the 43X May be more attractive. Both feature a 43 thickness slide, which should help with concealment.

There was probably minimal extra development cost to make a 48, once they figured out the 43X lower. Word is they are modular, in that the 48 and 43X pieces will interchange. It will be interesting to handle the new models, as many find the 43 grip size to be smaller than ideal for shooting, and for others the 19/17 grip is large. Hopefully this becomes Glock’s Hi Power in terms of grip feel.
 
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What's it going to do that my ten round 239 cannot already do?


Probably weigh about 1/2 lb less, have better support, oh and be about 1/4” thinner.
 
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I just pre ordered one of each. Love the G43. One with more rounds-yep I am in. Love the glock 19, a thinner version that still gives me my legal 10 rounds here in socialist CT, yep can't wait.
Maybe if I sold guns as a business i would view things differently, but for CC and range work, I think they will be just what doctor orderef
 
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As I understand it, the G43X and 48 share the same ten round lower, and are different in that the 43X has a 43 length slide, where the 48 has a 4.1 +/- inch long barrel and correspondingly longer slide.

For folks that carry AIWB or IWB, I see the 48 being more attractive. For those carrying OWB concealed, the 43X May be more attractive. Both feature a 43 thickness slide, which should help with concealment.

There was probably minimal extra development cost to make a 48, once they figured out the 43X lower. Word is they are modular, in that the 48 and 43X pieces will interchange. It will be interesting to handle the new models, as many find the 43 grip size to be smaller than ideal for shooting, and for others the 19/17 grip is large. Hopefully this becomes Glock’s Hi Power in terms of grip feel.


This is the best description of what is probably happening with the 48 and 43X. Thank you. It kind of suggests that the 48 can first, then the 43 X.
Does this mean that the 43 "upper" can be put onto a 48 "lower", making one's own 43X? Would that be possible? That would probably lead to them selling a lot more 48's and 43's, and maybe fewer 43X's?
Although I would most like 7, 8, maybe 9 round OEM magazine options for the 43, if this kind of mix and match between a 48 and 43 worked, I'd definitely be in for one or two.
Agree with the wish that I hope this is Glock's HiPower re ergonomics. And I also hope that the new models will have better triggers than my (very much appreciated and enjoyed) 43's. To me, the trigger pull of the 43 is a weaker point than its capacity.
Looking forward to the release.
 
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I’m seeing two tone pictures on the net. Any truth to this?
 
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I’m seeing two tone pictures on the net. Any truth to this?

I'm surprised no one on SF has posted about this yet.

Glock 48/43X: What We Got Right and Wrong
 
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I’m seeing two tone pictures on the net. Any truth to this?


The 43X and 48 have a PVD finish, like the 19X, except in a different, lighter color. I hear it is dull, not shiny, sort of like NP3.
 
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I’m seeing two tone pictures on the net. Any truth to this?

I'm surprised no one on SF has posted about this yet.

Glock 48/43X: What We Got Right and Wrong


10 round 4.17” barrel slim build Glock. Heck yeah I’m in for one. And, this just killed any chance that pistol that Pincus was helping develop. Can’t remember the name.

I like my G19, I like my G43. I will like this one.


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I'll say this in my best Glock Fan-boy voice: "YAWN...."

Seriously Glock. You lost. Walther beat you. S&W beat you. And now Sig is beating you...


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I’ll take 2.


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I was lucky enough to be able to fondle both the 43X and the 48 at a police supply store last Friday. They are 2-tone, as discussed. I like them both, but can't see them in my safe anytime soon. I like my 43 and P365 plenty for my tastes. I'm sure they will find some fans though!


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I was lucky enough to be able to fondle both the 43X and the 48 at a police supply store last Friday. They are 2-tone, as discussed. I like them both, but can't see them in my safe anytime soon. I like my 43 and P365 plenty for my tastes. I'm sure they will find some fans though!


Triggers grooved or smooth?
 
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I am getting one of each the second they are available.
 
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Triggers grooved or smooth?


I'm pretty sure they are grooved/serrated


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