I took it to the range yesterday, and it worked and shot fine, now cleaned and in my pocket.

Trigger much nicer than my LCP Max, felt recoil SOOOO much softer, it seems, than the Max, quite accurate and so the Max is gonna be an emergency gun somewhere for me. Probably will take it back to the range next week.

Bob

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Originally posted by straightshooter1:
I took it to the range yesterday, and it worked and shot fine, now cleaned and in my pocket.

Trigger much nicer than my LCP Max, felt recoil SOOOO much softer, it seems, than the Max, quite accurate and so the Max is gonna be an emergency gun somewhere for me. Probably will take it back to the range next week.

Bob

How many rounds did you put through it? Do you have a holster for it? Being a new gun I am sure it will be a little while before more options for holsters are out there, unfortunately.

I was more rushed than I wanted (and 3 new ones to shoot), so less than a 100 rounds fired. No malfunctions and it shot very well. I want to try to get back this coming week. The most noticeable thing for me was the difference between my LCR Max recoil and the recoil of the Smith. The Max is reliable I(or I wouldn't have it) but no fun to shoot. The Smith is a pussy cat.

I prefer Kydex and found an IWB from Vedder and it is on order. I used to buy Vedder holsters, but got away for some reason and I went back for this one.

I have a soft pocket holster for an EC9S that fits perfectly so, until I find a Kydex pocket holster I like, it'll do.

Bob

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Originally posted by straightshooter1:
I took it to the range yesterday, and it worked and shot fine, now cleaned and in my pocket.

Trigger much nicer than my LCP Max, felt recoil SOOOO much softer, it seems, than the Max, quite accurate and so the Max is gonna be an emergency gun somewhere for me. Probably will take it back to the range next week.

Bob

Awesome range report. Thank you for sharing. God Bless !!!

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Originally posted by straightshooter1:
I took it to the range yesterday, and it worked and shot fine, now cleaned and in my pocket.

Trigger much nicer than my LCP Max, felt recoil SOOOO much softer, it seems, than the Max, quite accurate and so the Max is gonna be an emergency gun somewhere for me. Probably will take it back to the range next week.

Bob

I really like this the more I read about it but had a question about the action.

Is this considered a striker-fired single-action?

or is this more like a "Glock-action" trigger?

Is the striker pre-loaded and the trigger pull cocks and releases or is it non pre-loaded and more like a double action?

Thanks!

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by straightshooter1:
I took it to the range yesterday, and it worked and shot fine, now cleaned and in my pocket.

Trigger much nicer than my LCP Max, felt recoil SOOOO much softer, it seems, than the Max, quite accurate and so the Max is gonna be an emergency gun somewhere for me. Probably will take it back to the range next week.

Bob

I really like this the more I read about it but had a question about the action.

Is this considered a striker-fired single-action?

or is this more like a "Glock-action" trigger?

Is the striker pre-loaded and the trigger pull cocks and releases or is it non pre-loaded and more like a double action?

Thanks!

Good question. Hopefully someone can answer this question. God Bless

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Originally posted by straightshooter1:
Bought one today, and plan to replace my LCP Max with this one (pending shooting the heck out of it tomorrow-but I have high hopes).

What was your primary reason(s) for preferring it over the LCP Max? For my uses it would be a pocket gun and thought I'd prefer the slightly heavier trigger of the LCP Max.

I bought the first one I saw with a thumb safety and put 250 assorted rounds through it before I traded it off. It is an impressive piece of engineering, but the size/capacity achievement didn't outweigh (for me) some of the things I didn't like.

I didn't find the claims of YouTube pundits concerning recoil impulse or great trigger to be true. Recoil doesn't feel softer than my Glock 42 or P238. The trigger is okay; but again, it doesn't feel any better than the 42 and the reset was much less crisp or "distinct".

Reliability was good except for one round of FMJ that failed to feed, which fed fine when reloaded into the magazine. Accuracy was also good, except rounds were hitting 8-10 inches to the left at 12 yards. That's when I noticed that the front sight was noticeably to the right of the dovetail. This tells me that S&W QC is lacking. Worse, the sights share the qualities of M&P sights: They are in the dovetails so tight as to make adjustments difficult if not impossible. Compounding this are the small dimensions of the slide and sights make it unlikely that your sight adjustment tool will work. The wide notch of the rear sight means you have to concentrate to get decent accuracy, but the sights are fine for concealed carry/self defense purposes.

I was pondering if the noticeable gap between the trigger safety shoe (or blade) and trigger might allow any material or debris to get in between and impede trigger pull. That's when I noticed that the trigger safety shoe is the same width as the trigger. I guess I might be missing something, but this seems like an idiotic design to me.

The magazine capacity is one of the selling points of the gun.... I finally owned a gun that made me purchase an UpLula loader. Even then, loading the 12-round magazine to capacity was a struggle.

I'm glad I owned the gun and spent time with it. I admire the design effort that went into it, but in the end it didn't offer enough to make me keep it.

Gosh, my experience has been just the opposite. My new Smith 380 has taken the place of my LCP Max which I am planning to trade off if I find something I want.

When I first saw one on a page in some ad, I didn't like the (seemed to me) long grip. but when I first picked it up, it fit my hand so well I knew I was gonna buy it.

Mags are easy to load with one of my Uplulas (remember I bought 4 of them as I kept misplacing them and it rides either in an IWB around the house or in my pocket when I'm out of the house (with a full size as my primary). The sights are dead on for me, and the trigger-it's simply great.

The difference in capacity is striking, I think. My beloved Glock 42's 6 round mag capacity and larger size, in comparison with this gun-just absolutely no comparison, IMO. Comes with a front night sight and two mags, I bought two more.

I quit on S&W when they started locking everything, replaced my J-frames with LCRs (good move on my part I still believe) but this new Smith has me wondering if I missed something else they make that I need or maybe just want.

My experience with this new model has been great, but I know you may feel differently.

Bob

Thanks for the feedback on this!

So, back to my question for you two guys:

Is this considered a striker-fired single-action?

or is this more like a "Glock-action" trigger?

Is the striker pre-loaded and the trigger pull cocks and releases or is it non pre-loaded and more like a double action?

Just trying to determine if I really want to be pocket carrying what may be a cocked single action gun.

Sorry, I missed your question.

I believe it is a striker fired gun-I'd never carry it without a cover over the trigger guard. Light trigger pull, easy to fire, so it might be easy to "Whooooops!" Hence the covered trigger.

Bob

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Originally posted by PASig:
Thanks for the feedback on this!

So, back to my question for you two guys:

Is this considered a striker-fired single-action?

or is this more like a "Glock-action" trigger?

Is the striker pre-loaded and the trigger pull cocks and releases or is it non pre-loaded and more like a double action?

Just trying to determine if I really want to be pocket carrying what may be a cocked single action gun.

@PASIG- it’s different than the Glock action In which the entire trigger bar moves back as a unit pushing back on the firing pin shoulder and compressing the spring, and then as the trigger bar drops down the firing pin is released.

The Smith trigger bar is shorter and the part of the trigger bar that moves back when you pull the trigger has the little finger sticking up which compresses the firingpin safety plunger, but then the back of the trigger bar actuates a fixed sear like mechanism to release the compressed firing pin. The part of the picture with the red circle is this fixed sear asmy. This sear is fixed and only moves up and down. So the new Smith & Wesson firing pin would be considered completely compressed once the slide is retracted, and pulling the trigger merely trips this sear and allows the firing pin to go forward.

I've read a lot of good things about this pistol until today and this fellow complained that it was difficult to rack. Any observations from you guys that have handled one ?

Purchased one for my wife to replace her LCP MAX. Overall she likes and shoots the BG 2.0 better, but it is definitely harder to rack with the tiny slide.

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Originally posted by JonDaddy82:
Purchased one for my wife to replace her LCP MAX. Overall she likes and shoots the BG 2.0 better, but it is definitely harder to rack with the tiny slide.

Glad she likes it and I hope to handle one soon. I have a couple Bodyguard 1.0 and they are a little hard to rack too but solid pistols.

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Originally posted by Genorogers:

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Originally posted by JonDaddy82:
Purchased one for my wife to replace her LCP MAX. Overall she likes and shoots the BG 2.0 better, but it is definitely harder to rack with the tiny slide.

Glad she likes it and I hope to handle one soon. I have a couple Bodyguard 1.0 and they are a little hard to rack too but solid pistols.

We just put another 200 rounds or so through it last night, this little thing is best shooting pocket gun I've experienced so far.

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Originally posted by GCE61:

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Originally posted by PASig:
Thanks for the feedback on this!

So, back to my question for you two guys:

Is this considered a striker-fired single-action?

or is this more like a "Glock-action" trigger?

Is the striker pre-loaded and the trigger pull cocks and releases or is it non pre-loaded and more like a double action?

Just trying to determine if I really want to be pocket carrying what may be a cocked single action gun.

@PASIG- it’s different than the Glock action In which the entire trigger bar moves back as a unit pushing back on the firing pin shoulder and compressing the spring, and then as the trigger bar drops down the firing pin is released.

The Smith trigger bar is shorter and the part of the trigger bar that moves back when you pull the trigger has the little finger sticking up which compresses the firingpin safety plunger, but then the back of the trigger bar actuates a fixed sear like mechanism to release the compressed firing pin. The part of the picture with the red circle is this fixed sear asmy. This sear is fixed and only moves up and down. So the new Smith & Wesson firing pin would be considered completely compressed once the slide is retracted, and pulling the trigger merely trips this sear and allows the firing pin to go forward.

So it's more or less a striker single action it sounds like? Thank you for the rundown. I really was intrigued by this but I'm not comfortable pocket carrying anything other than a double action. Guess I'm sticking with the Kahr

I was able to finally in person hold one in my hand and do some dry firing with it. WOW !!! It really feels nice with the lower bore-axis and the trigger feels pretty nice. I am now considering putting one on layaway !!! God Bless