I am a fan of metal framed handguns. I was trying to figure out what quality 9mm handguns use metal frames and hammers, and have manufacturing dates of less than 30 years old.
So far I've come up with this list:
Browning HP
1911 [all makes and sizes]
Sig P226/P229 series
Beretta 92 series
Taurus PT92/99 [some may argue about this and quality.]
CZ75 series, including SP01/tactical/shadow/other variants.
Is there something else I've missed?
Please don't reference WW II handguns or items from the 1950s. I am deliberately excluding those at this time. I've already thought of some like the P08 Luger, Walther P38, Star Model B/B Super, S&W Model 39/59. But I am trying to think of more modern designs.
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June 13, 2025, 01:30 PM
ArtieS
1st, 2nd and 3rd gen Smith & Wesson autos.
You can discard the 1st gen if you like, as they started in the '50s, but the others should qualify.
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June 13, 2025, 01:58 PM
BlackTalonJHP
A couple that I would add that I've owned and used are Beretta or Stoeger 8000 and the Sphinx SDP.
There are of course many CZ/Browning HP/1911 clones from Turkey available as well.
June 13, 2025, 02:09 PM
kho
Sig 239.
June 13, 2025, 02:10 PM
P250UA5
quote:
Originally posted by kho: Sig 239.
And P225/P6
Also P210This message has been edited. Last edited by: P250UA5,
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June 13, 2025, 03:15 PM
oddball
Staccato XC, P, C2, C, etc.
Wilson Combat EDC X9/X9L
And some may question the word "quality" when it comes to the Ruger P89, but IMO, it is a good 9mm pistol.
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June 13, 2025, 03:57 PM
.38supersig
P220 X-Six.
Kinda spendy if you can find one.
June 13, 2025, 04:48 PM
bac1023
There are a ton of them.
June 13, 2025, 05:50 PM
12131
Ruger original P-series pistols, P89/90.
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June 13, 2025, 06:34 PM
parabellum
A bunch of fru-fru European bullshit, having little connection to the real world, costing on average 9000 dollars each and come in perfumed boxes made from Unicorn pizzle.
If that's your thing.
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June 13, 2025, 06:38 PM
mike56
I just picked up a SDS Inglis P35 copy. $430! All steel. No mim, no mag safety. Crowned barrel. Brass bead front sight. Very impressed with fit/finish. 150 rounds, all ball. No issues. It did shoot way high so going back for higher front sight,
June 14, 2025, 02:27 AM
bac1023
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum: A bunch of fru-fru European bullshit, having little connection to the real world, costing on average 9000 dollars each and come in perfumed boxes made from Unicorn pizzle.
If that's your thing.
Somehow, I knew you wouldn’t resist.
Actually more than just that, but since you brought it up, yes the finest in the world (foreign and domestic) are among them. They aren’t meant to be for everyone and you know what? I’m glad they aren’t. If so, there would be nothing special or elite about them.
You’re right though, some are like a Ferrari or Lamborghini and have little connection to the world most live in. Some are even like Bugatti or Koenigsegg and nearly impossible to find or obtain regardless of your means. That’s fine by me.
June 14, 2025, 05:18 AM
captain127
Don’t know about your 30 year cut off. To me anything post 1945 is new enough. Lots of good quality 50’s 60’s 70’s guns out there. Keep in mind prior to about 1990,nearly everything was hammer fired! For the most part old=good.
June 14, 2025, 06:20 AM
OttoSig
quote:
Originally posted by bac1023:
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum: A bunch of fru-fru European bullshit, having little connection to the real world, costing on average 9000 dollars each and come in perfumed boxes made from Unicorn pizzle.
If that's your thing.
Somehow, I knew you wouldn’t resist.
Actually more than just that, but since you brought it up, yes the finest in the world (foreign and domestic) are among them. They aren’t meant to be for everyone and you know what? I’m glad they aren’t. If so, there would be nothing special or elite about them.
You’re right though, some are like a Ferrari or Lamborghini and have little connection to the world most live in. Some are even like Bugatti or Koenigsegg and nearly impossible to find or obtain regardless of your means. That’s fine by me.
Nothing Para said was wrong. If you like em, buy em. But folks aren't buying a Bugatti to drive to work everyday. And I think it's a silly notion to claim anything special or "elite" about the firearms you like is anything but subjective.
My grandpa's side by side 410 is worth more than any gun you own. Your post proves Para's point and my opinion of things as well.This message has been edited. Last edited by: OttoSig,
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June 14, 2025, 07:01 AM
92fstech
Most of the items on this list might still have been in production after 1995, but are there any current production, metal-framed, hammer-fired guns that were actually designed less than 30 years ago? I'm not talking variants of existing designs like a CZ TS2 or Sig X5, or clones/boutique builds of an existing designs like 1911s...I mean actual unique underlying designs.
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June 14, 2025, 07:02 AM
clipper1
I think a Kimber Stainless II gets a slot on that list.
June 14, 2025, 07:51 AM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by 92fstech: Most of the items on this list might still have been in production after 1995, but are there any current production, metal-framed, hammer-fired guns that were actually designed less than 30 years ago? I'm not talking variants of existing designs like a CZ TS2 or Sig X5, or clones/boutique builds of an existing designs like 1911s...I mean actual unique underlying designs.
The S&W CSX comes to mind as one of the newest - likely the newest - metal-framed hammer-fired designs. It was introduced in 2022.
June 14, 2025, 08:04 AM
92fstech
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
The S&W CSX comes to mind as one of the newest - likely the newest - metal-framed hammer-fired designs. It was introduced in 2022.
Good call...I forgot about that one. It's kinda 1911-ish, but different enough to be unique.
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June 14, 2025, 08:08 AM
CAR
quote:
Originally posted by bczrx: Please don't reference WW II handguns or items from the 1950s. I am deliberately excluding those at this time. I've already thought of some like the P08 Luger, Walther P38, Star Model B/B Super, S&W Model 39/59. But I am trying to think of more modern designs.
You have the Browning Hi-Power (GP35) and the M1911 on your list?
Am I missing something?
I would add the Star Model 28 or 30M and Benelli B76.
June 14, 2025, 10:30 AM
bac1023
quote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:
quote:
Originally posted by bac1023:
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum: A bunch of fru-fru European bullshit, having little connection to the real world, costing on average 9000 dollars each and come in perfumed boxes made from Unicorn pizzle.
If that's your thing.
Somehow, I knew you wouldn’t resist.
Actually more than just that, but since you brought it up, yes the finest in the world (foreign and domestic) are among them. They aren’t meant to be for everyone and you know what? I’m glad they aren’t. If so, there would be nothing special or elite about them.
You’re right though, some are like a Ferrari or Lamborghini and have little connection to the world most live in. Some are even like Bugatti or Koenigsegg and nearly impossible to find or obtain regardless of your means. That’s fine by me.
Nothing Para said was wrong. If you like em, buy em. But folks aren't buying a Bugatti to drive to work everyday. And I think it's a silly notion to claim that there is anything special or "elite" about the firearms you like is anything but subjective.
My grandpa's side by side 410 is worth more than any gun you own. Your post proves Para's point and my opinion of things as well.
Otto, your opinion is your opinion and you’ve stated it before. I honestly don’t care. The constant backlash actually proves my point.
I’m actually very happy not to see every Tom, Dick, and Harry shooting the guns I do. They aren’t meant to be for everyone and they aren’t produced in quantity to be for everyone.
