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Frangas non Flectes
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I saw his previous video.

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JaredAF: I think… or… maybe… or… I think.


Kind of meaningless speculation, really. We have no idea what they’re doing.


Essentially, he kind of spun up a whole set of expectations out of thin air, so no wonder he’s disappointed. Expectations can do that to you. But what he needed to do is generate “content” for people to find and view when the word went out about the V coming. Also, he keeps calling it “Gen V” and it’s just “V” - which speaks to the expectations thing. Maybe it would make more sense to colloquially refer to these as 5.3’s or so, given that it’s just the third notable revision of the Gen 5 - first had the front strap half moon, second had that removed and front slide serrations, the third has the various changes we see now.


I also don’t get the lamenting about parts interchangeability here. So you can’t drop a current version GPT in it and install your Punisher skull slide cover plate, Jared. Big deal. Roll Eyes


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I think it's laughable that he thinks people might want to hear his thoughts on the Gen 6 release, given the accuracy of his speculations about the V models, lol.

One thing I will say for Glock is that they've got great change control. No stealth updates or guessing what sub-model, generation, or variant you're dealing with. This change was all over the web, it's got it's own distinct SKU, and the V is stamped right there on the slide.


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Forgive me for not reading the whole thread but can someone quickly explain how this new V gets around the “no cruciform trigger” issue? I thought that was specified in the legislation. Or is the loophole just that it can’t accept the (already illegal) drop in Glock switches? From what I can tell in the latest info it still has the same cruciform trigger bar.


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Forgive me for not reading the whole thread but can someone quickly explain how this new V gets around the “no cruciform trigger” issue?


It doesn't. The slide was modified to ensure it can't accept a switch, but the trigger wasn't changed.
 
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There does seem to be a minor difference in the trigger mechanism housing but I don't know if this would prevent installation of the GPT into a V-series pistol. If the TMH of the GPT won't fit into a V-series Glock (or, more precisely, if the slide won't fit onto the frame of a V-series that has the GPT TMH installed) then the answer is no.

Also, some reviewers are saying the V-series trigger pull seems to be a bit nicer but they say that this may be because of the normal variances in Glock trigger pulls- please note that the tang on the V-series striker is narrower, meaning less contact with the trigger bar, meaning less friction as the trigger bars falls off of the striker tang. Just food for thought


 
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There does seem to be a minor difference in the trigger mechanism housing but I don't know if this would prevent installation of the GPT into a V-series pistol. If the TMH of the GPT won't fit into a V-series Glock (or, more precisely, if the slide won't fit onto the frame of a V-series that has the GPT TMH installed) then the answer is no.


If this is in reply to me and what I said at the top of the page, I wrote what I wrote having the incorrect memory of a new striker assembly being a part of, and coming with the GPT. I looked up some videos and none of the installs I saw had anything to do with the striker assembly, so I fear I've thrown bad info into the mix. If what I said isn't factored into your reply, please disregard altogether.

As an aside, I was looking at the narrower striker tang and wondering what effect that may have on the pull, if any. As you note, there's less surface engagement. I'm assuming these changes in the V will be present in any upcoming Gen 6, and if so, it'll be interesting to see how the trigger pull is different in the Gen 6. As with the Gen 5, I can foresee it getting better.


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I wasn't replying to anyone. I'm just wondering if the GPT will fit the V-series.
 
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Hopefully someone will take the TMH apart from the trigger assembly in the V guns soon and show pics. Might be an easy fix to get a GPT in to a V gun.

Johnny Glocks did a quick mod to one of his triggers and got it to work.



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Since the V-series seems to be an interim solution and destined to be short-lived, I think Glock will make any changes to the GPT necessary to allow it to function in the gen6, whether or not the gen6 will incorporate any of the changes we see in the V-series.

Keep in mind, though, that there has been speculation that gen6 Glocks will incorporate the modularity of the kind we see in the Ruger RXM.
 
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I agree with the “V” is an interim / short term solution.

Gen-6… maybe, maybe not.
Glock is tight lipped about any new design until they get released.
Could the Gen-6 be an all new design?
Same size as to be compatible with Gen 1-5 holsters, magazines. However, different firing mechanisms?

At this point, it’s speculation until Glock actually releases the Gen-6.

Would it make sense for the frame to be compatible with a GPT? Or would it make more sense for a new design that comes with a “better trigger”? (Already standard GPT?)

What makes sense financially/economically, or is Glock willing to do something different from their current design!


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Handled and disassembled a 17v and 19v today.

Meh. It’s another Glock. All the things you’d expect.

However, there appears to be enough room for the MOS cut?


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I watched a Glockstore video the other day at the airport and they did a slide cut with no issue on a V.
 
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I must admit I find humor in this particular panic. I’m not even really a “Glock” guy and I have a peck of these. Or is it a passel?

How can these be selling at stupid prices when you can’t kick a rock without one of these falling out?

It truly boggles the mind. I also don’t care. The V clearly seems like an intermediate step to something modular. So who cares? Clearly I am wrong because my lgs has a nearly bare cupboard of glocks. Luckily I’m back on a revolver kick so I am unfazed. Anybody got a good homebrew for my new 327 magnum? lol
 
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And I’m gonna bet the Gen V will be everything the 5 is. Want an optic? Hundreds of places doing good work at cutting one.


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I have no idea whether this actually works or is just a joke, but...


https://x.com/jerrycurld/status/1990619395945799819

 
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I have no idea whether this actually works or is just a joke, but...


https://x.com/jerrycurld/status/1990619395945799819



I'm not going to say if it would or wouldn't, but...
Is anyone surprised?
I build a lock, a bad guy is going to figure out how to get around it. I build a better lock, another bad guy is gonna figure that shit out too.
This stuff ain't figuring out rocket surgery.

We had this conversation at work when there was talk of the "Gen V" coming out.
"How long do you think...?"
My answer was "A few days".


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Another pic here.




I don't think anyone who's spent any amount of time looking at Fosscad stuff thought it would take longer than by the end of the year. Before Thanksgiving, though? I am impress. You can't stop the signal.


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As it should be. We need to start normalizing machine guns instead of vilifying them. It needs to be demonstrated over and over and over again that bans don’t work - people WILL find a way to have something they want. Laws should be targeted towards USE, not possession of items by law abiding citizens.




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As it should be. We need to start normalizing machine guns instead of vilifying them. It needs to be demonstrated over and over and over again that bans don’t work - people WILL find a way to have something they want. Laws should be targeted towards USE, not possession of items by law abiding citizens.


While I'm all for normalizing most of the NFA items (I'm still on the fence on RPGs and grenade launchers and such), I think the focus should be on the people doing the illegal modifications. I can tell you there are very little enforcements of "switch" possession by the Feds, and while I don't like the .gov much, doing the job seems mandatory.

Bad people are gonna bad unless there is a punishment. Period.

To the extent that an enhancement to a crime (like plus 7.5 years to the end of a sentence) for the USE of an NFA item in a separate, different crime (bank robbery say) and making the NFA item not illegal to simply possess, that's a great idea.


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Bad people are gonna bad unless there is a punishment. Period.


Ghetto thugs film drill rap videos with all their buddies waving stolen Glocks with happy sticks and switches and everyone shares the videos on YouTube and Instagram... and the ATF does... what?

It's not about actually punishing criminals.


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