Originally posted by ARH19456: Yeah, there are a lot of long time Sig fans who have a safe full of them but carried something else until the P365 variants arrived. I will still carry a PM9 or rare occasions but my Glock 26,43, shield etc. sit in the safe. I carried a Hellcat a few weeks when it first arrived but returned to the P365 as it fit me, and I shot it better. Springfield got the optic cut option right though, Sig should offer it on a standard P365 as well.
Not me, I carried P230 or P239.
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February 07, 2021, 11:58 AM
BBMW
Anyone put a red dot on the XL, since it comes with the cut? I know SIG sells it with the Romeo 0. But that optic is a little bit too much plastic fantastic for my taste. Anyone go with the Holosun 4/507K? Aluminum body, glass optics, and can mount directly (no plate.)
February 07, 2021, 04:31 PM
tweedcab
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Originally posted by aparoche:
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Originally posted by 1s1k:
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Originally posted by nhracecraft: While workable, the 12 rd Mags w/ the extended 'pinky rest' just seem like a compromise, and scream X-Grip to me. The XL Grip is solid and all there for me...Superior in all respects as far as I'm concerned.
I agree. I don't understand why so many people buy a P365 and then try and turn it into an XL. Just buy the XL from the beginning. It's understandable if you already have a P365 but if buying new.
Since it’s for concealed carry purposes, some people want it to be as small as possible. And if the extra grip of the 12 round mags works perfectly for your pinky, why go with an entirely larger frame? My P365 setup with 12 round mags and +2 Magguts holds 14 rounds with 1 in the chamber and is about the smallest concealed carry piece available. Why would I want to go with the larger P365XL frame if my hand fits perfectly and it is for concealed carry purposes?
Also, there is no “trying to turn the P365 into a P365XL.” The P365 came with the extended pinky 12 round mag from the factory the moment it was released. When Sig designed the P365, they were accounting for people with slightly larger hands by including the 10 round pinky extended mag and the 12 round pinky extended mag. They weren’t simply later add-ons like the super extended 15 round mag was.
Do you know that the 365 with the 12 round mag is the same height as the 365xl frame, also 12 rounds. Actually the same mag, EXACTLY, except for the flat plate rather than the extension to take up the space between the floor plate and the 365 frame. How I know.....I have both. I actually like the XL frame for the grip because it doesn't pinch in the seam that is present when I use the 365 with 12 round mags. I ended up getting an XL frame for my 365 in the end because that is better for my hands.
February 08, 2021, 08:03 PM
1s1k
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Originally posted by tweedcab:
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Originally posted by aparoche:
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Originally posted by 1s1k:
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Originally posted by nhracecraft: While workable, the 12 rd Mags w/ the extended 'pinky rest' just seem like a compromise, and scream X-Grip to me. The XL Grip is solid and all there for me...Superior in all respects as far as I'm concerned.
I agree. I don't understand why so many people buy a P365 and then try and turn it into an XL. Just buy the XL from the beginning. It's understandable if you already have a P365 but if buying new.
Since it’s for concealed carry purposes, some people want it to be as small as possible. And if the extra grip of the 12 round mags works perfectly for your pinky, why go with an entirely larger frame? My P365 setup with 12 round mags and +2 Magguts holds 14 rounds with 1 in the chamber and is about the smallest concealed carry piece available. Why would I want to go with the larger P365XL frame if my hand fits perfectly and it is for concealed carry purposes?
Also, there is no “trying to turn the P365 into a P365XL.” The P365 came with the extended pinky 12 round mag from the factory the moment it was released. When Sig designed the P365, they were accounting for people with slightly larger hands by including the 10 round pinky extended mag and the 12 round pinky extended mag. They weren’t simply later add-ons like the super extended 15 round mag was.
Do you know that the 365 with the 12 round mag is the same height as the 365xl frame, also 12 rounds. Actually the same mag, EXACTLY, except for the flat plate rather than the extension to take up the space between the floor plate and the 365 frame. How I know.....I have both. I actually like the XL frame for the grip because it doesn't pinch in the seam that is present when I use the 365 with 12 round mags. I ended up getting an XL frame for my 365 in the end because that is better for my hands.
Yep and to act like the P365 is needed because it's so much more concealable than the XL is a bit disingenuous. Pull out a ruler and look how long .4 of an inch is on the overall slide length, give me a break. That's why I always say if you want a 12 round magazine with the P365 just get the XL from the get go. Totally different argument if you like the 10 round magazine, then the P365 makes perfect sense.
February 08, 2021, 09:15 PM
aparoche
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Originally posted by 1s1k:
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Originally posted by tweedcab:
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Originally posted by aparoche:
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Originally posted by 1s1k:
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Originally posted by nhracecraft: While workable, the 12 rd Mags w/ the extended 'pinky rest' just seem like a compromise, and scream X-Grip to me. The XL Grip is solid and all there for me...Superior in all respects as far as I'm concerned.
I agree. I don't understand why so many people buy a P365 and then try and turn it into an XL. Just buy the XL from the beginning. It's understandable if you already have a P365 but if buying new.
Since it’s for concealed carry purposes, some people want it to be as small as possible. And if the extra grip of the 12 round mags works perfectly for your pinky, why go with an entirely larger frame? My P365 setup with 12 round mags and +2 Magguts holds 14 rounds with 1 in the chamber and is about the smallest concealed carry piece available. Why would I want to go with the larger P365XL frame if my hand fits perfectly and it is for concealed carry purposes?
Also, there is no “trying to turn the P365 into a P365XL.” The P365 came with the extended pinky 12 round mag from the factory the moment it was released. When Sig designed the P365, they were accounting for people with slightly larger hands by including the 10 round pinky extended mag and the 12 round pinky extended mag. They weren’t simply later add-ons like the super extended 15 round mag was.
Do you know that the 365 with the 12 round mag is the same height as the 365xl frame, also 12 rounds. Actually the same mag, EXACTLY, except for the flat plate rather than the extension to take up the space between the floor plate and the 365 frame. How I know.....I have both. I actually like the XL frame for the grip because it doesn't pinch in the seam that is present when I use the 365 with 12 round mags. I ended up getting an XL frame for my 365 in the end because that is better for my hands.
Yep and to act like the P365 is needed because it's so much more concealable than the XL is a bit disingenuous. Pull out a ruler and look how long .4 of an inch is on the overall slide length, give me a break. That's why I always say if you want a 12 round magazine with the P365 just get the XL from the get go. Totally different argument if you like the 10 round magazine, then the P365 makes perfect sense.
Can you pocket carry a P365XL like you can a P365?
February 09, 2021, 06:19 AM
airgunner
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Originally posted by aparoche: Can you pocket carry a P365XL like you can a P365?
I couldn't so that's why I went with the 365x (standard 365 slide on a 365XL grip module)
ETA to be clear: pocket carrying the 365XL was an issue with the length of the slide for me. It made the gun almost stick up out of my pocket so yes, that .4" can make a difference. The length of the grip was not an issue for pocket carry, for me.
February 09, 2021, 06:56 AM
T.Webb
The only downside to the P365XL is if you're a gun guy (like me), it's difficult to justify purchasing another carry gun. This thing is just too perfect!
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February 09, 2021, 10:29 AM
nhracecraft
Everything posted here is EXACTLY why SIG's modular design concept for the P365 (and the P320) is so Freakin' AWESOME! Everyone can configure it to their own individual requirements, and get's what they want and/or need.
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February 09, 2021, 11:07 AM
airgunner
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Originally posted by nhracecraft: Everything posted here is EXACTLY why SIG's modular design concept for the P365 (and the P320) is so Freakin' AWESOME! Everyone can configure it to their own individual requirements, and get's what they want and/or need.
I fully agree [beer]!
I don't know why some people feel the need to tell others what they should do? Just because someone goes in a different direction then you, doesn't mean they are wrong. We are all individuals with different needs, wants and requirements. What's perfect for you could be completely unworkable for me.
We should just be happy we all have the options we currently do because that has not always been the case and may not always be the case.
February 09, 2021, 11:17 AM
Il Cattivo
"Justify"? What is this..."justify" concept thingie? It's a gun, you're a gun nut, and the universe is in harmony.
February 09, 2021, 08:57 PM
BBMW
Has anyone seen this video before? Anyone have similar problems?
I know he same guy had a buggy early P365
February 10, 2021, 03:17 PM
2Malamutes
So what IWB holsters are people using? I just purchased one with the Romeo 0, slightly complicates matters, but 2 people have recommended the Alien Gear ShapeShift 4.0 which they make to accommodate the optic; anyone use one of those?
February 12, 2021, 08:37 PM
gatorsig
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Originally posted by 2Malamutes: So what IWB holsters are people using? I just purchased one with the Romeo 0, slightly complicates matters, but 2 people have recommended the Alien Gear ShapeShift 4.0 which they make to accommodate the optic; anyone use one of those?
+1 for the Lighttuck. That is what I use for the P365 and sizewise it is a perfect match. Vedder makes it in an optic version for the XL and that is what I will get if I go that route.
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February 28, 2021, 09:51 PM
SigSauer_P225
Bought a Hellcat, hate the trigger. Bought a XDS mod2 with CT optic and new I needed few more rds. Bought the 365XL, installed a Holosun K507 X2 and have found heaven in a handgun.
March 01, 2021, 05:51 AM
Bob RI
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Originally posted by gatorsig:
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Originally posted by 2Malamutes: So what IWB holsters are people using? I just purchased one with the Romeo 0, slightly complicates matters, but 2 people have recommended the Alien Gear ShapeShift 4.0 which they make to accommodate the optic; anyone use one of those?
I have the same holster and really like it...my 4th Vedder. I also put a Holosun 507K on my XL and like that as well.
March 01, 2021, 07:12 AM
Fredward
Also, with the standard 365 I have the flexibility to choose between and extended, longer grip and a shorter, concealable one.
We all have valid choices. One size does not fit all.
March 01, 2021, 07:58 AM
Warhorse
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Originally posted by BBMW: How does the P365 carry vs the J-frame? Are you giving up anything to get the extra capacity?
My standard P365 has completely replaced my J-frame for EDC. With the 10 round flush base magazine it is as easy, if not easier to carry in the pocket than the J-frame. Yes your pinky finger dangles when firing it, but it also does on a J-frame, neither has ever bothered me, and I have a large hand. When I wear my 365 any other way, it's carried with a twelve round mag.
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March 01, 2021, 04:30 PM
corsair
I tried the xl and SAS this weekend, I must say, mighty impressed, now I need to find a way to get one.
March 02, 2021, 10:27 PM
sonnydaze
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Originally posted by aparoche: If you like the P365XL, I would definitely try the P365 with the 12 round extended mags for extra grip.
Agreed. The P365 with the 10-round mag does not give me a good hold, but the 12-rounder is a great achievement... I love mine, but won't carry it with the shorter mag...
