All, Curios for those who have shot both on how the TS2 orange compares to the X5. I am familiar with the X5/X6 but not the TS2 in accuracy, trigger ect. Thx!

its not completely obvious to me which generation and model of X5/X6 we are discussing. But in any case doesn't matter ok I have both. hands down the TSO wins all the categories generally. Now without knowing exactly what you are trying to do with gun maybe one specific item might go the other way, but what are trying to optimize?

I’ve got an P226 X-Five Classic and Legion, along with a TSO and TS2O, all in 9mm. I prefer the lower bore axis and the extra weight of the CZ’s. Bench rested accuracy is likely similar. Both series are remarkably accurate handguns and fun to shoot. Kudos to the Legion for the comp that keeps the muzzle down.

In regards to legacy versions of the models in question....
I have had three 1st Generation XFives (kept the L1) and own a couple CZ Tactical Sports models (Not TS2). I find the finish of the X Fives superior, but prefer the CZ due to ergonomics and aftermarket component options. From a rest, I'd say the XFive might be slightly more accurate than the CZ but not by a large margin. In my hand, I shoot the CZ better than the XFive. It fits my hands and as mentioned above, the lower bore axis makes it "flip" less. The CZ also has more magazine capacity which is important if you do USPSA/IPSC Limited division. The fit on the Orange model CZ is noticeably better than the standard TS models. I think the CZ TS Orange is one of better values in handguns for the performance. The TS2 models are mostly cosmetic updates from the previous versions (based upon the example I shot). I can't speak for the latest US produced XFives. I've thought about picking one up but it's never been attractive enough...yet.

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Originally posted by huskerlrrp:
In regards to legacy versions of the models in question....
I have had three 1st Generation XFives (kept the L1) and own a couple CZ Tactical Sports models (Not TS2). I find the finish of the X Fives superior, but prefer the CZ due to ergonomics and aftermarket component options. From a rest, I'd say the XFive might be slightly more accurate than the CZ but not by a large margin. In my hand, I shoot the CZ better than the XFive. It fits my hands and as mentioned above, the lower bore axis makes it "flip" less. The CZ also has more magazine capacity which is important if you do USPSA/IPSC Limited division. The fit on the Orange model CZ is noticeably better than the standard TS models. I think the CZ TS Orange is one of better values in handguns for the performance. The TS2 models are mostly cosmetic updates from the previous versions (based upon the example I shot). I can't speak for the latest US produced XFives. I've thought about picking one up but it's never been attractive enough...yet.

The standard TS2 has a new slide and frame over the old Tactical Sport and TSO. The TS2 Orange, which debuted last year, has a thick bull barrel, which does make a nice difference. It’s CZ’s first bull barrel offering.

[quote]But in any case doesn't matter ok I have both. hands down the TSO wins all the categories generally.[/quo}

I also have both and prefer the TS2 Orange to the X5. However, the X5 is a great pistol.

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its not completely obvious to me which generation and model of X5/X6 we are discussing. But in any case doesn't matter ok I have both. hands down the TSO wins all the categories generally. Now without knowing exactly what you are trying to do with gun maybe one specific item might go the other way, but what are trying to optimize?

Current run of X5's and bullseye indoor range shooting. I know both are accurate, but which one is more. Right now leaning towards the CZ to change things up.

Been a while, Clubster. Welcome back.

X6 for the win....wait, what was the question? LOL I think I might have bought 2 X6's from clubster a frew years back, but it's been long enough to have forgotten the specifics. Was that you importing them Clubster?

In my view, although the above is true about the X6, the answer is that the X5 and CZ run neck and neck. Toss up on how you feel about it. My CZ was tuned by a fella named Angus Hobdell and the trigger is a superlight 3lbs. My sight is slightly off, so I group @ 6" left of the target at 25 yards. Close enough that I haven't changed it.

Buddy Kyle put 3 rounds in a literal cloverleave pattern at that distance with the X6 P226 in .45. One shot went thourugh the a previous hole near exact. Not so close with the 9mm X6 but close enough to be happy.


I can't do that, although I wish. They all shoot close enough for me to be happy. @ 5-6" at 25 yards although I've had days where I'm lucky to keep all on the paper and others where most are in close to center. When Kyle stopped grinning in stunned stupefication, the next shot, the 4th, when he turned around and fired was 1 inch off that cloverleaf. Stunned us both. What ever he had brought and shot earlier was getting @10"-12" groups at the same 25 yards and he was happy with it (it was 25 yards after all). My Chiropractor has the same X6 pistol and shoots it competitively at 50 yards (he says), and drills it into the 10 ring mostly (he says), we haven't gone shooting but I'd believe him.

The CZ Tactical Sports and X5 get @5-7" inch groups at 25 yards on a good day. I'd be hard pressed to give a preference to either over one or the other, They are all such fine pistols, it's spitting hairs. The X6 is clearly more ergonomic, likely due mostly to more weight.

12131……Thx! Life has been crazy but never skipped a beat, just could not participate on forums as much as I normally could.

Jimb888…. Yep, that was me and imported quite a few of them over the years. Awesome guns and wish they still existed like in the past.

I've got two Tactical Sports including the Orange. I also own two of the US P226 X-Fives and even though you didn't mention any interest in it, a comparable 92 Performance as well. Between them I prefer the CZs a bit more. I shoot them slightly better than the SIGs mostly due to marginally better triggers, although overall SIG NH did do an excellent job in crafting their X-Fives. The Beretta and the SIGs I shoot about the same. All of them are strictly range toys for me.

Really temped to get the CZ and didn’t realize the TS2 was that much heavier than the full stainless X5 after handling the two side by side. It was pretty noticeable.

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The CZ Tactical Sports and X5 get @5-7" inch groups at 25 yards on a good day

I don't get this at all but maybe its context. I have no idea the rules for bullseye competition shooting, but I thought it was very slow timed fire. I shoot these guns in timed action competition and while I suck comparatively I can get groups way smaller than that even at speed. When I'm actually working to adjust an optic I might shoot at 25y rested and these guns will do 2-3" all day long. what am I missing?

I’ll never get used to an external extractor on the X5.

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Really temped to get the CZ and didn’t realize the TS2 was that much heavier than the full stainless X5 after handling the two side by side. It was pretty noticeable.

The TS2 Orange is 50.5oz with an empty mag. Definitely a beast

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optic I might shoot at 25y rested and these guns will do 2-3" all day long. what am I missing?

Sorry to derail the thread, missed the bullseye comp note further down. These are groups from when your eyes get old, your hands shake and simply at the range for fun.

BTW, thanks again for the great transaction Clubster, seriously appreciated. They're both still prized posessions although they don't get out of the safe much, they still get fondled a lot:-)

I had a Shadow2, but sold it and got a Czechmate.

Lightyears of difference.

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optic I might shoot at 25y rested and these guns will do 2-3" all day long. what am I missing?

Sorry to derail the thread, missed the bullseye comp note further down. These are groups from when your eyes get old, your hands shake and simply at the range for fun.



BTW, thanks again for the great transaction Clubster, seriously appreciated. They're both still prized posessions although they don't get out of the safe much, they still get fondled a lot:-)

No, Thank You. Gald you are enjoying them.

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I had a Shadow2, but sold it and got a Czechmate.

Lightyears of difference.

Tell me more? How would it compare to the TS2 Orange w. a MRD?