Went to the range today, shot the new Rival and my newest G43. Then pulled out my carry, my G43X MOS that all I have done is put nice night sights on , and an extended slide release.

Using a brand new 3rd Gen Shield Mag with 15 rounds of either factory fresh Gold Dot or HST 124 grains, plus one in the tube (don't recall which off the top of my noggin, but they are what I carry-one or the other).

Bang, bang, bang, bang and STOP! Huh? The next round was almost in the chamber, the next pushing up on it and the slide not locked back.

Cleared it and it happened again, twice more thru the 16 rounds I started with. PUlled out my back up mag, a standard Glock 10 rounder and Bang, bang band and STOP! Cleared it and it finished the mag with no other problems. Each time the scenario I saw was as described in the first stoppage.

I blamed the mag-though I have had 1st, 2nd and now 3rd gen Shields with never a problem. But the stoppage with the Glock 10 rounder baffled me.

I don't recall, but I think I threw the Shield in the garbage as I left and headed for my gunsmith who is gonna check the gun and shoot it probably tomorrow. Anyway that mag is history.

I have had a LOT of Glocks and as far as I can remember, this was the first stoppage, jam, or booboo I've ever had with one. May have had others, just don't recall.

I am thinking extractor loose or piece broken off, but I didn't check it myself.

Bob

If I'm understanding correctly, the jam is occurring with two live rounds...the fired case has been ejected from the gun?

Have you replaced the mag catch on that gun with the metal Shield one? If not, I'd take a look at it to make sure the plastic hasn't gotten chewed up from contact with the metal mag notches. If it's damaged it may not be holding the mag (any mag) in the proper position for reliable feeding.

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Originally posted by 92fstech:
...I'd take a look at it to make sure the plastic hasn't gotten chewed up from contact with the metal mag notches. If it's damaged it may not be holding the mag (any mag) in the proper position for reliable feeding.

This happened to me w/ an aluminum alloy mag catch, since aluminum is softer than steel. Installing Shield Arms' steel mag catch resolved the problem.

If it’s getting rid of the old case but not feeding the new one maybe there is gunk under the extractor not allowing it to move properly and it’s hanging up feeding or the RSA doesn’t have the ummph to feed or your mags aren’t seated properly for some reason or another.

I know not a ton of help but that’s the path I would take.

Thanks, guys!

Both the gun and mags and, yes, the aluminum mag release are brand new. I considered the possibilty the aluminum might be a problem and prolly will change to a steel one. But nothing was chewed up, it was the first time using the mags or the gun since putting the sights and slide release (and mag catch-I forgot about that) on.

The Glock mag was new and I just looked at it and it still looks near new.

Bob

What is the projected RSA life on these smaller envelope guns anyway? (43x,365,hellcat etc). I’ve not really thought about it or looked in to it for my hellcat.

If it was a brand new gun it could simply be the RSA/Gun is tight and needs to work in. Run it a bit wet and leave it locked back for a few days/work the slide a bit see if that helps. It seems to me with the current Glocks that I have handled that their RSA’s have gotten stronger across the line.

If my gunsmith doesn't find anything, that's what I'll try.

Bob

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Originally posted by cslinger:
What is the projected RSA life on these smaller envelope guns anyway? (43x,365,hellcat etc). I’ve not really thought about it or looked in to it for my hellcat.

For the P365, most ppl advise 2500-3000 rounds. A member here quoted the Sig Armorer's manual advising replacement at 5K rounds

https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...0601935/m/2600020374

I looked in my P365 manual and couldn't find an instruction despite others quoting the manual says 2500.

I think I remember that about the 365. I would guess they are all similar in that size envelope.

I bet OEM 10rd Glock 43X/48 mags work perfect every time.


Here's my current tale of bleh.


Glock 43X MOS. Worked fine with gen1 shield mags. I sold them and the metal mag catch when PSA came out with their 15rd mag. I bought three of the all black 15rd mags. That was last year. No issues at all with the PSA mags and the 43X.

Ended up selling the 43X MOS with both OEM 10rd mags and one PSA 15rd mag to a coworker. He has no issues.

Much later:

kids get me a FDE PSA Micro Dagger for Father's Day. It came with one of PSA's newer slick shiny 15rd mag. It worked fine in the Micro Dagger. OEM 10rd mags worked fine.
The two all black first gen PSA 15rd mags are doing the exact same thing OP's is doing. Round four or five and it will fail to feed and lock up. Doesn't matter the round. 115, 124, 147, fmj or JHP. Both mags will lock up.

I email PSA about it because I can see the feed lips and follower are different on the newer gun. They ship me three new followers. I change both of mine over and give the third one to my coworker and told him NOT to change it if he isn't having any issues.

I'm still having feeding issues with the two mags with new followers.

My boss got his Micro Dagger in today. I let him try both and only one mag is doing the same thing. A dayshifter has the OLD OLD 43X with the silver slide. They both work just fine in his gun.

I gave my boss the one that works in his and I gave the other to the dayshifter. I will buy one of the newer shiny/slick PSA mags.

I tried a gen1 Shield 15rd mag and it doesn't work right either.

Next time it happens pay attention to the breech face. I had an issue with a G48 where the striker wasn’t retracting and was catching the rim of the round as it moved upwards and the slide wouldn’t go into battery.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

First of all, I typed the model wrong-43X, not 48X.

Secondly, it looks like the Mag catch was the rascal-I bought a couple aluminum ones from the Glock Store for the 43X and one of my 43s. The 43 worked perfectly, but the 43X kept hanging up as described above.

Put the original mag catch in and my gunsmith shot 50 rounds woth no problems. I saw a bit of wear on the catch, too, which seemed unusual for having just been installed.

Hopefully, just a bit out of spec. Gonna take the pistol out either this PM or this weekend and shoot about 50 or so rounds myself.

If no flubs, it'll be the carry gun again.

Bob

Glad you got it worked out. The VAST amount of Glock problems I’ve come across usually start with I only have X,Y,Z aftermarket parts.

Take care, shoot safe.
Chris