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So I got a chance to handle one today with the optics cut….that was a fine piece of weaponry…. Felt absolutely perfect in the hand…. I was planning g on getting a G43X slide to get cut for an optic…now the Hellcat may just be cheaper than that whole effort.

Since cash is tight I’ve got to find something to let go of…curse you Springfield!!!!

Anyone out there have any experience - good or bad with these?



 
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Fabulous little pistols.
I put Talon grips on mine, and can’t say enough about how impressed I am with this thin, compact 9mm as a CCW piece. It’s very accurate, and the front tritium green post combined with the white outline U-notch rear give a great sight picture.

I shot a knockdown steel match with it and did very well. The gun handles beautifully.
It fits a few of my holsters which I had for a Glock43.

You’re gonna like your once you got it.
 
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I have one with the optic. I actually kind of wish it was bigger but it's a solid gun and very accurate and reliable.
 
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I picked up a hellcat RDP with Shield optic and comp this week. Only have about 150 rounds through it so far.
It is basically the same size as my glock 48MOS that has the Shield optic as well. That gun has around 800 rounds through it. I use the 15rd shield magazines in. Only put their metal mag release in and a rocket connector.

RDP seems to have less flip to me with the comp. Glock trigger is better. Hellcat has a little take up, some creep and a good break and reset. They just released 15 rd magazines for it. Only about 1/4 longer than the 13 rd. Paid 820. for it. Thats the gun, comp and red dot.
 
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Hellcat magazines have to be the absolute worst to load ever. Definitely needs a loader
Also, it has 2 versions, one with the HEX optic and one with the Shield optic. 2 different product sku's
 
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I picked up the optics ready version recently after shooting my Sons Hellcat. The Vedder light tuck arrived yesterday. I believe it will be a good option when I need something a little thinner than my usual G26.




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I have one with the optic. I actually kind of wish it was bigger but it's a solid gun and very accurate and reliable.


I know of 3 other people that have one and all say they run like tops. I was very impressed with the pistol. Unlike the P365, I can reach the magazine release without shifting my grip.


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Sold off my 365 for one. Great little gun


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My buddy bought into them, which meant I got one of his P365 for a nice price.

I tried his, and for a SA Inc, it’s nice. But after a couple of shots it froze up. Completely perplexed. Trigger wouldn’t pull. He says, “I guess the reports are true.” I hadn’t heard of it but apparently some have had problems with the trigger dingus not receding before the trigger moving, so it would basically friction lock up the trigger.

So yeah, it’s nice, but not for me. He’s got two or more now. I wouldn’t buy SAI anyway.


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My buddy bought into them, which meant I got one of his P365 for a nice price.

I tried his, and for a SA Inc, it’s nice. But after a couple of shots it froze up. Completely perplexed. Trigger wouldn’t pull. He says, “I guess the reports are true.” I hadn’t heard of it but apparently some have had problems with the trigger dingus not receding before the trigger moving, so it would basically friction lock up the trigger.

So yeah, it’s nice, but not for me. He’s got two or more now. I wouldn’t buy SAI anyway.


I remember reading where some early production guns would do that if side pressure was applied to the trigger as it was being pulled. It was my understanding that SA addressed this with newer production guns.

I've never been a huge fan of Springfield XD pistols. They were ok but were never on my radar after buying one many years ago. When my Son bought one, I was very surprised at how well made it felt. After taking it down to our range and running a few rounds through it, I ended up buying one myself. These are very good pistols.


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I remember reading where some early production guns would do that if side pressure was applied to the trigger

It was a lot more than some. Pretty much all Hellcats would exhibit that behavior, at least based upon the Hellcats that we got in from SA up until a month or so ago. I was told that there was an announcement a couple of months back that the issue has been addressed in manufacturing, and it seems like with the recent Hellcats that we've gotten in that there's less binding with the trigger, but there's still some 'chunky' resistance that's come across during the trigger travel, but the trigger will still break unlike before. Apex is probably a bit bummed, since I heard that they came out with their own aftermarket solution that addressed this and other issues with the stock Hellcat trigger.

In reality if I did the same kind of sideways pressure with any Glock equipped with an unaltered factory trigger, a similar sort of binding will often happen. The trigger will break, but the quality of the travel pull will be absolute crap in getting there. It's a thing with certain striker guns, I guess.


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Originally posted by CQB60:
Sold off my 365 for one. Great little gun




You all are kidding right?



 
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Sold off my 365 for one. Great little gun




You all are kidding right?


Not surprising when you consider all the beta testing owners of the P365 did.


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I remember reading where some early production guns would do that if side pressure was applied to the trigger

It was a lot more than some. Pretty much all Hellcats would exhibit that behavior, at least based upon the Hellcats that we got in from SA up until a month or so ago. I was told that there was an announcement a couple of months back that the issue has been addressed in manufacturing, and it seems like with the recent Hellcats that we've gotten in that there's less binding with the trigger, but there's still some 'chunky' resistance that's come across during the trigger travel, but the trigger will still break unlike before. Apex is probably a bit bummed, since I heard that they came out with their own aftermarket solution that addressed this and other issues with the stock Hellcat trigger.

In reality if I did the same kind of sideways pressure with any Glock equipped with an unaltered factory trigger, a similar sort of binding will often happen. The trigger will break, but the quality of the travel pull will be absolute crap in getting there. It's a thing with certain striker guns, I guess.



These guns have been extremely popular right from the start with overwhelmingly positive reviews. Makes me wonder how much of an issue it really was. I'm guessing the folks at SA didn't push sideways on the triggers when testing.


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Not surprising when you consider all the beta testing owners of the P365 did.


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These guns have been extremely popular right from the start with overwhelmingly positive reviews. Makes me wonder how much of an issue it really was. I'm guessing the folks at SA didn't push sideways on the triggers when testing.


So you doubt negative reports about the Hellcat, but the often repeated internet stories about the P365 is gospel truth. Got it.
 
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Not surprising when you consider all the beta testing owners of the P365 did.


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These guns have been extremely popular right from the start with overwhelmingly positive reviews. Makes me wonder how much of an issue it really was. I'm guessing the folks at SA didn't push sideways on the triggers when testing.


So you doubt negative reports about the Hellcat, but the often repeated internet stories about the P365 is gospel truth. Got it.


I'm not doubting the negative reports. I've seen them. It's pretty hard to ignore the overwhelmingly positive reports you see in the comments of Youtube videos, forum comments and online reviews. If you can't understand what I'm saying, I'm the one that gets it. Wink


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I'm guessing the folks at SA didn't push sideways on the triggers when testing.

There and at HS in Croatia. Probably not a typical test procedure. Wink


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I'm guessing the folks at SA didn't push sideways on the triggers when testing.

There and at HS in Croatia. Probably not a typical test procedure. Wink


I agree.
I bet they test it the next time around. Smile


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I would never trade my P365 for one of these.


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Hellcat magazines have to be the absolute worst to load ever. Definitely needs a loader
Also, it has 2 versions, one with the HEX optic and one with the Shield optic. 2 different product sku's


I fully agree with the comment about the mags. An UpLula or something similar is really advisable. Without a loader you'll spend more time struggling to load the mags than shooting.
 
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