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Agree. I rented and shot a plastic Q5 about a month ago. I came away liking it just ok. Ergos and trigger were good but just thought that it would really benefit with more heft and bit more grip texture. I have started shooting in a real fun pistol league that guys run the gambit with. Anything from stock Glock 19s to full on race guns. I will be running my CZ Shadow when it starts up again but also might be looking at something that would allow a red dot since my eyes are not getting any younger. Just wondering how much of a redesign it is internally to the previous Q5 ? | |||
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I must admit that is a pretty cool looking pistol that will likely sell well if it performs as radically as it looks. That fact it sounds like you can just add base pads to existing PPQ magazines and use them (because of the extended magwell) was a good move by them too. -Dtech __________________________ "I've got a life to live, people to love, and a God to serve!" - sigmonkey "Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value." - Albert Einstein "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition" ― Rudyard Kipling | |||
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Pretty excited about this. Surprised it has taken so long for a striker fired all steel competition gun. | |||
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Several Q5 Match SF on gunbroker now. A Pro model at $1,549 and a standard model at $1,399. | |||
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Handsome pistol, except it needs another 50 cuts in the slide.  I swear, manufacturers are going to get so mill-happy that pistol slides are going to start coming apart during shooting.And if you don't think that's possible, guess again. | |||
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Me too. | |||
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Salient/Zevitis | |||
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Sounds like this is close to the CZ Shadow 2 price point. I just don't see that kind of value in the Walther. | |||
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I don't know about everyone else, but I picked up my Shadow 2 for $980. Then again as the novelty wears off, the retail price on the Walther may come down from the MSRP a ways. | |||
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For a competition gun, how about starting out with "light" in the first place? I don't shoot competition, but my guess is, most competition folks wouldn't want their match pistol with the trigger weight that of a stock Glock. Q | |||
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AREX does this with their Alpha. The medium spring is pre-installed because the light will not reliably ignite all primers. I'm sure there heavy is intended for very hard military primers. The difference between springs in end trigger weight is said to only me a half pound each. Mine has run supremely reliably from factory so I haven't messed with it. | |||
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Who knows why Walther did it that way - could be their lawyers advice especially considering a whole lot of people will be buying it that don't shoot in competition and use it as a fun gun and for self defense. The good news is changing the necessary spring is just slightly more difficult than changing the recoil spring. Hopefully I will get to try one out in March at the annual factory shoot at my LGS. | |||
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Too bad they didn't engineer a way to change the trigger pull weight w/o swapping parts, like on some of their higher-end target pistols. | |||
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I really love Walther handguns, but given the amazing values out there of the current line PPS, PPQ, P99 (which I own), I cant see spending $1300 on this. Thats Grail gun territory for me. US P210, CZ Shadow 2 | |||
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I'm a Walther fan, tried and true, from way back. When was the last time we've seen a steel frame Walther pistol in regular production, other than the PP and PPk? The PP Super comes to mind, although most of those were chambered in 9x18mm Police and were issued to German police agencies. Walther did produce about a thousand in .380 ACP and Interarms imported some of these. You can probaby get a steel frame P38 from Earl's but those are of course not regular production. But- a service-sized pistol when is the last time? I just love the idea. I really like the PPQ. I think it has the best triger pull of any striker fired pistol. I think the PPQ 4" is a handsome pistol, as polymer pistols go, and I'd love to see that steel frame mated to a 4" slide. However, a straight swap is not possible, it seems, if for no other reason than that they've changed the disassembly latch. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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Walther has already said more steel frame models in the PPQ series will be coming including 4 inch frames for duty and competition. | |||
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-Dtech __________________________ "I've got a life to live, people to love, and a God to serve!" - sigmonkey "Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value." - Albert Einstein "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition" ― Rudyard Kipling | |||
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It ia a bold move for Walther and I hope it works out for them. I am guessing 90% plus of today's pistol buyers are looking for new pistols in the under $600 range. This is going to be their premium line and they can make a hell of a fine German made pistol using modern manufacturing equipment for their price point with probably a healthy profit margin. I bet we see steel frame PPQs for under $1000 street price point when it comes to non match models. The awesome PPQ trigger in a steel frame is going to be a dream shooting machine for some of us Walther enthusiasts with special pride of ownership. IMO this is going to be akin to SIGs Legion series of pistols for the Walther brand. | |||
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I doubt that they'll go that far, but that's precisely what I'd love to see- a 4" M1 steel frame PPQ with a beavertail. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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Quote from the American Rifleman article... “The Walther Q5 Match SF is but the first of a line of steel-frame pistols from the German manufacturer. Models for duty and self-defense are in the works, too.” | |||
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