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Yep. Our aluminum boat dock has held up against the waves better than our neighbor’s galvanized steel dock. High performance motorcycle frames have not suffered as to longevity vs their steel predecessors. That said for those contexts, the aluminum structure can yield more vibration to the user. The inherent flex of the steel frames can absorb such energy. I wonder if the steel pistol frame‘s advantage with recoil might be more related to flex, and not merely due to weight. | |||
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I don't know, and I don't care. When beer can frames exhibit 50 years of trouble free use, maybe I'll consider one. Except I'll be long since dead. For what remaining time I've got, I'll be happy using my Swiss steel frames to the end. Go ahead and experiment with P210 Carry frames, I'll let you be the test monkey. Or guinea pig. Not being a gambler, I'll play the odds and stick with steel framed and Swiss machined steel. The ones that already have 50 years under their belts. Unhappy ammo seeker | |||
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| Left-Handed, NOT Left-Winged! |
I get it, and if they made a right side only, left handed safety I'd buy it, but almost no one does that. Can't carry something I can't use left handed. It's frustrating when they ignore 10% of the population. Sig is actually pretty good about making lefty friendly guns lately - P320, P365, the SAO versions of the Classic P-series (esp the Legions), the lowers on the MPX, MCX. The P210A Carry should at least have the option, because the frame is cut for it under the grip panel (well, at least the P210A Target is). Maybe as a retrofit kit with a new grip panel. I would accept that. Now, I have a P210A Target and a CZ 1911A1 (GI safety) and some target .22's without ambi safeties because they are for range use only. | |||
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Aluminum is one of the superior metals to build megayachts out of. It lasts (as well as steel, and FRP is getting there in size at 164' Westport). I crossed the Gulf of Mexico one night a few years ago in a 1970's 80' aluminum crew boat, getting the crap pounded out of us at 18 mph (15 knots) in 10-12' seas and never once worried about the damn aluminum boat that was 50 years old coming apart. They have built aluminum framed pistols that have stood the test of time......Colt Commanders......plenty of P series Sigs, a lot of lugers, BHP's...…….I think you can rest assured you'll get at least 30,000 rounds out of a sig 210 with an aluminum frame. | |||
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| Left-Handed, NOT Left-Winged! |
Commercial planes are mostly aluminum, except the hot parts. So are AR's. It's not a strong as steel, but it's weight to strength ratio makes it the material of choice for many applications. And it doesn't rust although it can corrode. Most of us don't worry about traveling in flying beer cans.... | |||
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What’s stronger, a pound of aluminum or a pound of steel? If you said steel, you’re wrong. ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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| An investment in knowledge pays the best interest |
Stating the problem as a weight metric is misleading versus strength of the materials with the same dimensional tolerance. I don’t see barrels being made out of aluminum do you? I mean if you’re so correct with your whiz bang perspective, where are they? Getting back on point, I agree with the previous posters that when the Carry model does arrive, I’m betting sometime next year regardless of Sig’s claim, that it will be produced in very limited numbers. | |||
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Reminiscent more of a Cz than a Sig. ______________________________________________ Life is short. It’s shorter with the wrong gun… | |||
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They dropped the Standard? When did this happen? You can forget about it. They already dropped the Standard, only keeping the Target. Regarding the Skeleton, it's from the Mastershop in SIG DE and has nothing to do with SIG USA.[/QUOTE] | |||
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The 210 Standard is still listed on Sig’s website. Where did the info come out that it was discontinued? | |||
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It’s not found in the 2020 catalog. ------------ SP2022 - 9mm | |||
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As mcs1564 mentioned, the Standard is not in the 2020 catalog (only the Target is) and it also was not on display/range day at SHOT this week along with the Target and Carry. | |||
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| Non-Miscreant |
Maybe they are making it for you. P210s often go 100,000 rounds at European ranges without failure. One failing at 30,000 would be a disaster to the gun's reputation. Back to your beer can analogy, if you want to shoot 6 beers, you need to buy a 6 pack. Its because beer is only good for one cycle per can. Unhappy ammo seeker | |||
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I love the beer analogy. Reminds me of a wine enthusiast dismissing a beer lover's taste. At the end of the day, both liquids serve merely to provide a relaxing buzz and then are pissed into an inexpensive ceramic toilet (or the neighbor's hedge if more convenient). | |||
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Well, that's unexpected. I don't know that I'd want one, but it's probably a joy to shoot. -ShneaSIG Oh, by the way, which one's "Pink?" | |||
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Even if not more convenient, its more pleasurable. Reason enough to walk across the yard to do it. No, I have no idea what that has to do with jimmy's 30,000 round early death of the beer can crafted P210. Unhappy ammo seeker | |||
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I won’t be buying one for many reasons, but as pictured, I do think it is a nice-looking pistol. Everything you mentioned above, I agree with. Heck, I even think the smooth G10 grips have an interesting appeal. SIG probably won’t sell a ton of these because of the price, and since they’re famous for it, they’ll discontinue it after a year or so. And yeah, they’ll probably become collectible. Neat gun, but I can’t imagine this is what a lot of P210 fans actually wanted, and most of that has to do with them introducing new designs and then dropping all support for them in short order. ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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Here's a question: do the American and German P210s use the same magazines? I found a pretty good deal on magazines for my German P210 Super Target and bought a bunch. I'm kind of interested in the P210 carry but will be more likely to buy one if I can use the pile of magazines I already have. | |||
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I have the P210-A standard and picked up these magazines from CDNN. They are listed to fit a P210 Legend but are an exact fit to the Standard. https://www.cdnnsports.com/210...8rd-bl.html?___SID=U | |||
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The mag for the American P210 will work in the German P210. It will also work in the Swiss P210 with the side mag release. Q | |||
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