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You're going to feel a little pressure... |
You could. Very unlikely you will have to use it. Even less likely it won't work. Do you have another choice? If you do, you know the best answer or you would not have asked. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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From past experience, I don't think cops get "special" guns. I've seen issues with the 43s, but not the first with the 42s. What was the issue? | |||
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Bingo. But it is much easier to ignore statistics that don't suit us. If you don't test it with the required 167.4 rounds of ammo, you will probably be ok. Just like most of the posters who never have been put under stress and forced to perform will be ok. Most of the posters who never have done FoF will be ok. We just pick the easy rituals to focus on instead of the hard stuff that actually requires work. | |||
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It's my way or the Highway |
I've personally seen thousands of M&P's straight from the factory shoot 900-1000 rounds of Federal HST in a transition course and they didn't have lube applied. Maybe a handful had some feeding issues after 4-500 rounds and were lubed. (not a practice of my own, just something I've seen) Oh, wait..... One pistol had serious issues on the first mag, but that was shooter induced. All the magazines had the rounds loaded in backwards. The decision you make, you'll have to live with....I'd say just make sure the mags are loaded the right way... | |||
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Take the risk or lose the chance |
If the choice is between carrying this gun unfired or not carrying at all, then clean & carry the 43. Use common self defense ammunition (Gold Dot, HST, etc.) and test fire it ASAP. I'd sooner trust a Glock unfired than any other weapon. ---------------------------------------- “The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.” | |||
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For real? |
Make sure it works. I didn’t one day. We just switched to gen3 31s. I was running out of time during the shift so I just qualified with someone’s gun. They’re all the same, right? Grabbed my new Glock 31 out of the box, did a quick clean and lube, loaded it up and stuck it in the holster. After some time I finally got to shoot it. Jammed up on third shot. Would not extract after firing. It took banging the muzzle on the floor a few times to unlock it. Cleaned it and checked it and it’s been fine ever since. No clue. Now I will at least cycle three mags of duty ammo through a gun before putting it into service. Not minority enough! | |||
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E tan e epi tas |
ONLY IF I HAD NO OTHER CHOICE. Like has been said the odds of ever needing a firearm for any normal law abiding person are very very low. The odds of the gun not working are pretty low with any modern respected firearm. All that being said if I had any other choice I would definitely ring out the gun first. I am not one of these I have to have 5000 rounds through it to trust it people but I want 2-4 boxes of ammo through it for several reasons. 1-Check for any system reliability issues. 2-Learn to shoot and handle it. Just because you can shoot X gun doesn't mean you can pick up Y gun and be just as good with no familiarity at all. Guns are like cars with manual transmissions. They are all cars and all have manuals but they are all different in their own way. 3-Break in. Some guns do need a little break in period in my experience. Usually less so with hot / defensive ammo and more so with under powered stuff but running some rounds to smooth things out is never a bad thing. But when it comes right down to it...."you pays your monies and you takes your chances." "Guns are tools. The only weapon ever created was man." | |||
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Go ahead punk, make my day |
Agreed. I normally take new weapons directly to the range to shoot them stock before anything else happens. I've seen too many people change a bunch of stuff on guns only to have them fail, then no know if it was the gun in the first place or something they did. But yes, I would carry a Glock or S&W J-frame without firing first, assuming it passed inspection and a function check, if I had no other option. | |||
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Murphy is always out there looking for you. Clean, lube and shoot it. Just as important see how you do with it and where it shoots. DPR | |||
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Disassemble. Examine. Lube. Reassemble. Function test. If magazine fed, disassemble mags and inspect. Then 200 rounds of plinking ammo and 50 of street ammo. And the one gun I would never carry without an extensive maiden vovage: A 1911. You would think after 107 years... Never mind! End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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About 20 years ago I was the Range Officer for my department. This was before issued weapons so guys bought and carried their own. One guy had a new S&W 4513 that he had been carrying for a month but hadn’t shot it. He shot the 50rd qualifier course and his target had 6 holes in it. I shot a magazine and didn’t hit the target from 7 yards. I decided to check the rifling and there was no rifling. S&W had sent him a smooth bore barrel. First and only time I’ve seen that but it can obviously happen. | |||
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Thanks for all the replies. I know I need to shoot it first. | |||
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I love it when the internet commandos insist on firing 500 to 1000 rounds of premium HP ammo before carry. If I had to wait until I could afford that much expensive ammo I'd never get to carry anything. No one's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session.- Mark Twain | |||
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I have carried w/o some range time but it was with revolvers. I wouldn't do it with a semi auto pistol. If people would mind their own damn business this country would be better off. I owe no one an explanation or an apology for my personal opinion. | |||
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Up to you. There's no law against doing it. If you're comfortable, that's all that matters. I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I'm not. | |||
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I'm not saying you need to burn a ton of ammo, but I there is a lot of room between 500 rounds and zero rounds. Personally, I am comfortable with 100 plinking rounds and 25 rounds of my carry ammo. Some times, certain guns just don't agree with certain ammo. I was looking at switching to Federal HST in my .357 SIG P320. I found that for some reason, this ammo gets stuck in the chamber and won't extract reliably. My P320 has never had this problem with any other ammo, and obviously this ammo is functioning correctly in other guns or there would be a massive recall on it. If I had just started carrying it without testing it in my gun, I would have never known I had a potential disaster waiting to happen. ------------------------------ "They who would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin "So this is how liberty dies; with thunderous applause." - Senator Amidala (Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith) | |||
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Living my life my way |
Every gun should spend some time at the range before you carry it. I've had guns for 3 or 4 months while waiting for time to get to the range. | |||
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I bought a G19 a few years back and after the first few rounds I noticed carbon on the primer area of the brass. Turned out that the firing pin tip broke so it was shaped like a pin and was puncturing the primers. I always put a few hundred rounds though any firearm before I trust it. | |||
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It's all part of the adventure... |
I mainly test new guns out first and foremost to make sure I can hit with them, and secondly to ensure it’ll feed my preferred carry ammo. I don’t go nuts with the round count, though. In my experience modern guns are pretty reliable, so I accept the calculated risk that if it’ll feed a magazine or two it’ll feed 20 mags full. And yes, I understand that anything that’s mass produced can have bad examples, so I think a thorough examination by way of cleaning and lubing is in order. Stay safe! Regards From Sunny Tucson, SigFan NRA Life - IDPA - USCCA - GOA - JPFO - ACLDN - SAF - AZCDL - ASA "Faith isn't believing that God can; it's knowing that He will." (From a sign on a church in Nicholasville, Kentucky) | |||
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