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Am watching the movie Fort Worth.

The printer guy turns deputy and borrows a pair of revolvers to take care of three bad guys.

While walking down main Street he flips open (out)the cylinders on both guns and closes them.

Prior to dispatching all three promptly he thumbs back the hammers and shoots them all from the hip or there about


Did they make single action revolvers with swing out cylinders?

The cylinders are on a crane, he does not remove the cylinder from the frame.

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This movie doesn't show up on IMFDB, so I'll wing it.

I can't think offhand of any single-action revolver with a swing-out cylinder, ever. Double-actions existed in the Old West, for example the Colt Models 1877 and 1878, but these were still gate-loaded like a single-action. The Colt "Open Top" cylinder removed altogether for reloading. Merwin & Hulbert cylinders also did not swing out, at least not in that manner. Swing-out cylinders from Colt and Smith & Wesson didn't come out until 1892 and 1899, respectively, after the Old West era was over. So you've got me. But then again, movies and TV shows are full of anachronisms.
 
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Definitely not S&W Schofields it sounds like; they broke open and had ejectors. IMDB didn't have too many clear still photos of Randolph Scott, etc. but those shown appeared to be SAAs in his belt or hands. TBH I have seen some movies of the Old West tales with either the hero or heroine holding double action revolvers. I guess it boiled down to what the props dept. had and budget permitted.
 
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Hopkins & Allen sold a swing-out cylinder 6 gun in the 1870 Era

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That Hopkins & Allen LOOKS like it has a swing out cylinder, but it's just a swing out ejector.

Winchester made prototype revolvers in the 1870's





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Am watching the movie Fort Worth.

The printer guy turns deputy and borrows a pair of revolvers to take care of three bad guys.

While walking down main Street he flips open (out)the cylinders on both guns and closes them.

Prior to dispatching all three promptly he thumbs back the hammers and shoots them all from the hip or there about


Did they make single action revolvers with swing out cylinders?

The cylinders are on a crane, he does not remove the cylinder from the frame.


I found the movie and watched the scene you referenced.

What he does is open the loading gates on two SAAs. he then spins the cylinders then closes the gates. one after the other. It's a street scene set at night so it's not the easiest thing to make out, but that's what happened.

For those not familiar with the Colt SAA he basically does two quick versions of this:



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If anyone is interested in the film it is Fort Worth (1951) directed by Edwin L. Marin and starring Randolph Scott. Warner Bros.



the first few minutes:



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One more and I'll leave this alone for a while

Here is the maneuver in question:



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Now I don't know what I am seeing,

I looked for 30 minutes on Y.t. but never found that clip.

Would like to see it on my tablet.





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Since he looked at them both from the right side I guess it's conclusive that the gun has a gate not a movable cylinder.

So that's solved.


Unless the cylinder flopped out to the right.
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I could be persuaded.

Imfdb has not covered it ( (that I could find).





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Winchester Revolver video:

https://youtu.be/hk4PoFFNnaE?si=o1UNo-XjB1qWtjwf

Hickok 45 and the SAA (he checks the chambers just after one Minute):

https://youtu.be/g_YFIljic6o?si=aflop9jfy3QG2DTq

Clip of Randolph Scott checking chambers:

https://youtu.be/WIlmYBuMcW8


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Randolph Scott Zoomed and Brightened :



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https://youtu.be/sVmnhNmZ7AI?si=L4DsvU4ArewRVcSJ


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By golly it's crystal clear now.

Thanks for taking the time and trouble.

Who knew Hickok 45 was around 14 years ago.

It might be the camera lens distortion but those grips look miniscule compared to his hands, or maybe his hands are larger than average.

Or way back then perhaps gun grips were made smaller





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By golly it's crystal clear now.

Thanks for taking the time and trouble.

Who knew Hickok 45 was around 14 years ago.

It might be the camera lens distortion but those grips look miniscule compared to his hands, or maybe his hands are larger than average.

Or way back then perhaps gun grips were made smaller


He's been on YouTube a long time.

He (and his son) are pretty tall. They are like 6'8" or there abouts.


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So is the movie any good?
 
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Pretty much like a dozen other Randolf Scott and Audie Murphy movies.

Very mediocre, and I like westerns.

I wouldn't pay more than $2.50 to see it in a movie theatre.





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Thank you.I have been watching a few westerns lately.If I stumble across it, I might watch it. I think everyone should have at least one Single Action revolver. I have several Single Actions, by a variety of makers. But if I could only have one, it would be a Colt SAA in .45 Colt. In my opinion a Colt SAA in .45 Colt is the classic.
 
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