I ordered one last week. Should have it later this year and I can share thoughts. I like the design and the delayed blowback system it uses.
January 30, 2026, 05:13 AM
12131
Ian at Forgotten Weapons has a much more detailed evaluation (description, complete takedown and shooting). Very interesting design and not boring same old same old. What strikes me when shoots it is that the muzzle flipped more than I expected for such a low-bore axis pistol.
Q
January 30, 2026, 09:35 AM
Jim Watson
Match division? The dot is movable, you can rack the action with it but it does not reciprocate in firing. I wonder if NROI has smelled it and come up with a ruling on whether it may be shot in Carry Optic.
Laugo had that problem, they were proud of their fixed optic base but had to come up with one on a moving part to pass as CO.
January 30, 2026, 09:42 AM
bac1023
Open class only, Jim
January 30, 2026, 10:23 AM
Jim Watson
What it looked like. Pro: Easy installation of compensator. Con: Availability of 30 shot nanner clips or long extensions.
I understand the rush to publication but it was tough to see Ian having to make excuses for malfunctions from his prototype.
January 30, 2026, 10:24 AM
92fstech
Interesting design. The non-reciprocating "charging handle" on a handgun is a novel idea. I kind of agree with Ian, though...why add all that complexity to the design and not just make the optic base fixed and cycle the slide from the front?
I enjoyed the comparison to the Alien. And I agree with Q...it certainly did look like the muzzle flip was more pronounced with the Dragon than the Alien. I wonder if that has anything to do with all the reciprocating mass being out front and up high?
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January 30, 2026, 10:50 AM
flesheatingvirus
That was an awesome disassembly process.
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January 30, 2026, 06:14 PM
honestlou
Thanks for the video Q; definitely more involved. I also agree about the muzzle flip. Intuitively it seems that such a low bore axis would “solve” that issue, but I suspect that the gun wants to “flip” one way or the other regardless, and up is the path of least resistance.
I’ve often thought that we’ve had very little truly innovative engineering on firearms, and this certainly is that. I just don’t know if it makes much difference for practical purposes.This message has been edited. Last edited by: honestlou,
January 30, 2026, 06:16 PM
bac1023
quote:
Originally posted by 92fstech: Interesting design. The non-reciprocating "charging handle" on a handgun is a novel idea. I kind of agree with Ian, though...why add all that complexity to the design and not just make the optic base fixed and cycle the slide from the front?
I enjoyed the comparison to the Alien. And I agree with Q...it certainly did look like the muzzle flip was more pronounced with the Dragon than the Alien. I wonder if that has anything to do with all the reciprocating mass being out front and up high?
The Alien’s frame is steel, while the Dragon’s grip and frame are all aluminum. Probably a factorThis message has been edited. Last edited by: bac1023,