So yesterday I decided to go to the range and rent 2 pistols that I was considering for concealed carry which is finally allowed in my county and state. My top choices to start are the Sig 365 or the Glock 26. They didn't have for rent a HK VP9SK which would be my number 1 choice.

So after running 50 flawless rounds through the Sig 365 I load up the Glock 26 and after every shot I had every malfunction in the book. I know it was me because the range officer oiled the rails and put a mag though it with no problems.

I've been shooting for over 30 years since I was a kid and never had a malfunction in my life. But with Glock 26 it would fire 1 or 2 rounds at most and when I pulled the trigger it would click and fail to fire. Drop the mag rack the slide out would pop a spent casing. Then down the line 2 stove pipes. Called the range officer who then had me change my grip a bit and told me to grip the pistol harder. Now comes new problems where it would fire and than eject the spent casing then the next round would hang up on the feed ramp causing the slide to not go into battery.

At this point I just gave up shooting anymore rounds through the Glock 26. I've never limp wristed in my life but from what I read it's all the tell signs of it. The muzzle was not rising that much at all every thing seemed fine, I was hitting the bullseye dead on with my shots other than not being able to get to the next shot without a malfunction.

I have small hands and my pinky was hanging off the mag well with nothing to grip, unfortunately they didn't have a grip extension base plate for me to see if that would help.

Watched some videos and one that stuck was pressing both wrists inward as you grip to get more leverage. I have a Glock 19 and shoot it no problem but it's been over a year since I last went shooting due to medical issues.

The Sig 365 was amazing when handling it, at first I thought it was too thin and would be hard to rack the slide or grip properly. And it shot dead on without a hick up. In case your curious I was running 115 grain Blazer Brass FMJ. I've read 124 can potentially help fix the issues I had, but I have tons of 115 grain and never had a problem. Sorry for the long rant.

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I haven't had much luck with 115 ammo in my 26. I usually just shoot it with 147 because I like to suppress the 26. I do have to have mag extensions on because I cannot shoot worth anything with my pinky curled under. Unlike most, I have had no issues with Magpul 12 rd mags made for the 26 in my gen5 26.

Next time, bring your 19 mag to try with the 26. But just remember, putting rearward pressure by gripping your mag hard with your pinky can also cause feeding issues.

I have had no problem with the G26. However, I am not fond of it as I consider it too fat. I have owned many Glocks and prefer a slide that is about one inch in width.
I would suggest that you abandon the G26 and hold onto the Sig...it is a great pistol and you shoot it well.

Try wrapping your pinkie under the bottom of the mag...don't try to squeeze it onto the edge of the baseplate. When I had my 26 that was my technique, and it really locked the gun in. In the 10 years I owned that gun I don't think I ever had a malfunction with any kind of ammo.

You're not left handed, are you? We had a guy in class last year who was shooting a borrowed Glock 19 who kept having malfunctions. It took me a bit to figure it out, but I eventually realized that he was flagging his thumbs up beside the ejection port and bouncing spent cases back into the action.

If this was a gen 4 or later, the 26 is unforgiving for anything but a firm grip. I had a buddy with the same problem that was using a relaxed grip and experiencing jams. I ran a flawless mag through it and he did the same with a better grip.

Try a pinky extension. It’s much easier to shoot with a full fingered grip.

124 grain ammo helps in general with many of these small 9mms made for .mil/LEO


That said it could just be how that gun hits you specifically. As an example, I shoot most anything passably. I am not recoil sensitive, I have a good grip etc. etc. I can shoot. I have shot and owned numerous Glock 30’s over the years. No issues. Enter the Glock 30S. This particular gun would recoil “just right” into my wrist that would fatigue me until I would start to induce a malfunction. All I am saying there can indeed be a specific gun that just doesn’t work for a person.

You mentioned the HK P30SK. Member dry-fly has one for sale in the classifieds. I have the full size version, and am quite fond of it.

You gotta go with what works for you.

For me, Glock ergos are shit and the stock sights are shit, too.

The P365 is insanely accurate for its size, but I’m not sure I trust the manufacturing on those.

The VP9SK is fantastic, but I didn’t like the little lip at the base of the front strap. Hard to go wrong with HK tho.

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Originally posted by dfens:
In case your curious I was running 115 grain Blazer Brass FMJ. I've read 124 can potentially help fix the issues I had, but I have tons of 115 grain and never had a problem. Sorry for the long rant.

115 grain Blazer Brass is powder puff.
My new Gen5 G26 would not eat it until after the 300-400 rnd mark.
115 grain (full power) speer lawman fmj ran fine along w/ carry loads.
And yes, 124grn and 147grn should work better.

Thanks for all the replies guys.

I really wanted to maybe add the Glock 26 to my collections and have it as 1 of the 3 allowed on my permit but unless I try one again maybe it just isn't meant to be I don't want to buy one and have to sell it because I can't trust my life to it. Shouldn't have to grip the frame to death for it to work properly if so I'd rather rely on something else.

Very tempted by the Sig 365 but the whole Sig 320 and holster problems I hope they get it worked out soon.

Probably will just buy the VP9-SK I have a full size one. Love the trigger and it just works. I really want to get a Staccato CS but after finding out it's close in size to my Glock 19 I don't know if I can carry a nearly full size handgun plus it's a not a cheap gun to buy. Time will tell since I've never carried before.

My last 26 absolutely refused to shoot 115gr until I left the slide locked back over a weekend and then put a hundred or so 124 +p through it. It's been absolutely flawless ever since.

And when I say it refused to shoot it, I'm not kidding. It was literally a single shot firearm.

Now it's become my primary off duty carry.

I have a gen3 g26 and could never warm up to it even with all the different pinky extensions as the problem is the grip/backstrap is too short. I was about to get rid of it and I came across Hyve technologies. They have a plus 0,1, or 2 baseplate they it’s the same size. It does require you to alter the magazine tube by shaving off the mag plate locks. The new baseplate extends the grip 360 degrees around the magazine giving you a slightly longer grip. Works perfectly, you can get a full grip on the gun.

My wife and I each have a G-26.

It seems when my wife shoots her G-26, she and the gun are ammo sensitive. If we shoot 115gr S&B, there are no issues for her. But, if she shoots 115gr Blazer, she'll start to get issues associated with limp wristing.

Now, I can take her gun, clear the malfunction, load up a mag of 115gr Blazer and blaze away without any issues.

We do use the mags with the extension for your pinky.

The Glocks are sprung for SD ammo, so hotter ammo would help. My 8YO Son at the time, could get my G19 to choke on range ammo, worked 100% with me shooting it.

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The Glocks are sprung for SD ammo

That’s the nature of the beast with guns designed primarily for.mil/.LE. In many cases they need some break in before they will run powder puff stuff especially with any kind of bad technique.

My routine for a very very long time has been.
-Clean gun out of the box
-lube gun WELL out of the box
-run the slide/dry fire etc. before first range trip
-leave slide locked open until first range trip
-break in with 124 grain or +p / defensive stuff for a box or three. (Or the hotter/heavier equivalent for other calibers)
-if it is a gun that seems to have super stiff mag springs I might pre load those before first trip. These new micro nine mags get a preload from me for example. The G26/G30 did as well.

The above routine has basically always resulted in a reliable gun across the board with no headaches so to speak. Some, maybe most, would never need it but for those that do I never deal with the issues because I just assume and address out of the box, besides it gives me some dryfire time as well as makes me test my defensive stuff (as you all should be doing).