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Walther announced in October of last year that they have started manufacturing the PPK again and that they would start shipping in December. Well, here it is January and still no PPK, although it does look like they intend to start shipping later this month. It remains to be seen what their quality will be like. Current photos look good, but at the price range they are suggesting, not that encourageing. _____________________________ "The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living." "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin | |||
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Yes Walther USA in Fort Smith AR has been saying they would realease in for 3 years now. Was going to be Dec 2018 now saying 2019. Slide made in Germany frame made in Fort Smith. Sights now milled into the slide. MSRP $699 I believe "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6" | |||
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I find my ppk and ppk/s much more accurate than my P238. "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6" | |||
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I have a 1964 West German blued, 1964 PPK that runs flawlessly. But it doesn't see daylight all that much. There are far better carry and range options today. And yet ... if they were to offer it up in a full bore 9 ... not that "Kurz-crap", I'd be all over it. Granted, I don't know why. ************************************************ "Tonight, we are a country awakened to danger and called to defend freedom. Our grief has turned to anger and anger to resolution. Whether we bring our enemies to justice or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done". {George W. Bush, Post 9/11} | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
9mm parabellum won't work in a blowback gun that size. The slide would need to be UGE like a Hi-Point | |||
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Here's a current article from The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. Per the article, MSRP is $749. The Walther website lists PPK & PPK/s models - available in "black" or stainless steel. The only caliber offered is .380 auto. https://www.arkansasonline.com...et-to-ship-20190113/ | |||
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Walther had some on display in their booth at a distributor show recently. I played with them a bit. They are quite nice. I'd compare them to the German/French made ones. Definitely better than the S&W ones. I'd rank it as good or better than the Interarms (which I own). But it was a small sample size and time will tell. | |||
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Also heard no mim parts in the new ones as used in the S&W versions "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6" | |||
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I would be interested in a PPK in 32 auto to go with my Interarms SS PPK/s in 380. My gun was a gift from a dear friend, and has never missed a beat in decades. | |||
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I was hoping for a 32 acp but they are only making 380. "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6" | |||
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Engraving is scratching on purpose |
I handled the new Fort Smith PPK at the SHOT Show a few years ago. The stainless looks great, the "black" is certainly not blue and I was not impressed. The most interesting change was to the rear sight. Instead of a drift adjustable rear sight mounted in a dovetail, the rear sight is machined as part of the slide like the pre-WWII Walther PPK pistols. I've always liked the Walther and have several. Pre-WWII Zella-Mehlis, post-WWII Ulm/Do, stainless Interarms, plus some others. The story goes that Walther wanted to make the slides in Germany and import them here to match up with PPK frames (the PPK is too small per the Gun Control Act of 1968 to import, but it can be made here in the US). Interestingly, it was Germany that wouldn't let Walther export them. Looks like Walther finally gave up or Germany is letting them import them, I'm not sure which. There is a strong desire for newly made Walther PPK pistols. If I wanted one so badly, I'd ante up and buy an original German PPK (either pre- or post- WWII) that will only go up in value. Of course, I already have what I want/need. But many newer shooters only want new guns covered by a warranty. I get that. I think Walther will sell a whole bunch of these. These are mine: | |||
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This design predated the development of reliable, expanding ammunition and really was intended for FMJ bullets only. I've had this '90's series PPKs for some time and it functions quite well using the Lehigh Defense 90 grain " Xtreme Penetrator" solid copper bullets. You may want to give that a try. "I'm not fluent in the language of violence, but I know enough to get around in places where it's spoken." | |||
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Doin' what I can with what I got |
If they'd make one black in .32ACP, they'd have a customer. My Dad has always wanted that gun. ---------------------------------------- Death smiles at us all. Be sure you smile back. | |||
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Regardless of who makes it, or where it is made, I'm sure it won't work right.....In over 40 years owning and struggling with many PPK/S's, I never had one that was reliable regardless of the ammo (FMJ). I'll save my money and aggravation and forgo this albatross.....Walther should just quit while everyone forgot the trouble these caused..... | |||
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Funny I have 3, west German, Interarms, and S&W and they all go bang every time. Maybe you limp wrist them "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6" | |||
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I had a West German PPK/S .380 that would feed FMJ but jam on HP. I could not get reliable feeding on HP, so I sold it. I would pick a East German 9X18 Makarov over the new PPK or PPK/S. I own a 1960 E. German Suhl build that will eat anything in 9x18 Makarov. ********* "Some people are alive today because it's against the law to kill them". | |||
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I'd buy a stainless .32 today but I have no interest at all in a .380. | |||
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I have a strong inclination that the 'new' PPK/S will be a major disappointment. There are so many good examples of REAL PP series pistols on the secondary market at varying conditions and price points. The Fort Smith example appears to be a continuation of the junk clone that S&W used to churn out. | |||
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Well if the slide is made in Germany and they took out the Mim parts how is that a continuation of junk? All speculation at this point. "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6" | |||
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I'll stick with my P230's and P232's. My brother in law had a Walter and he may of had 20 rounds down the pipe. Problems from the start. It was back at Walther more than in his hands. He got rid of it and got a Shield. | |||
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