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Originally posted by BBMW:
I have to wonder if they're even going to be doing their own manufacturing.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
And yet, as I said before, through the teething problems and out the back of them, SIG has, AFAIK, been able to see every P365 they could build.

In point of fact, SIG has had QC issue previous to this, with the NH built aluminum framed P-series, the whole P250 abortion, the P320 drop safety fiasco, and the initial problems with the P365. And their still a top tier gun maker (as defined by the level of their sales, and, especially to LE and military.) Maybe they know something we don't, or don't want to accept.

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Originally posted by Kevbo:
There are plenty of people turned off by aig’s QC issues. The 320 and 365 issues hurt. Only time will tell how much.

When I checked my Facebook feed this morning, 3 separate people I’m friends with had a fake advertisement that sig was now accepting pre-returns on the 365XL. One is a professional shooter and instructor. The other, until recently, owned a gun store for 21 years, one of the most successful in the state. FWIW, he has carried a p220 every day I’ve known him for 17 of those 21 years, and was a Sig master dealer. My point is, people trust what these guys think, and if the p320/365 issues have damaged sig’s reputation with them, it will spread. It doesn’t help that Glock has rolled out the gen 5s and the 43X/48 with few, if any, teething problems.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Really? SIG has sold every P365 they could produce, and likely could have sold more. Yeas, some people won't buy them because of the initial teething problems. But those people didn't slow down sales.

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Originally posted by XLT:
The worst thing they could do is rush it to market, like the 365, people still won't buy them. it has to be 100 percent before market.

if they pull it off it's going to be a huge money maker for them. I really like my franken 43x .

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Originally posted by Phelen_Kell:
From another forum:

An industry insider said he believes Mec-Gar will be making these mags for Shield Arms.
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if it's true, it might be worthwhile. I really like my 43 and haven't felt a need to get a 43X or 48 but I might get a 48 if these work.

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Originally posted by smithnsig:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
And yet, as I said before, through the teething problems and out the back of them, SIG has, AFAIK, been able to see every P365 they could build.

In point of fact, SIG has had QC issue previous to this, with the NH built aluminum framed P-series, the whole P250 abortion, the P320 drop safety fiasco, and the initial problems with the P365. And their still a top tier gun maker (as defined by the level of their sales, and, especially to LE and military.) Maybe they know something we don't, or don't want to accept.

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Originally posted by Kevbo:
There are plenty of people turned off by aig’s QC issues. The 320 and 365 issues hurt. Only time will tell how much.

When I checked my Facebook feed this morning, 3 separate people I’m friends with had a fake advertisement that sig was now accepting pre-returns on the 365XL. One is a professional shooter and instructor. The other, until recently, owned a gun store for 21 years, one of the most successful in the state. FWIW, he has carried a p220 every day I’ve known him for 17 of those 21 years, and was a Sig master dealer. My point is, people trust what these guys think, and if the p320/365 issues have damaged sig’s reputation with them, it will spread. It doesn’t help that Glock has rolled out the gen 5s and the 43X/48 with few, if any, teething problems.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Really? SIG has sold every P365 they could produce, and likely could have sold more. Yeas, some people won't buy them because of the initial teething problems. But those people didn't slow down sales.

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Originally posted by XLT:
The worst thing they could do is rush it to market, like the 365, people still won't buy them. it has to be 100 percent before market.

if they pull it off it's going to be a huge money maker for them. I really like my franken 43x .

Taurus sells a lot of guns globally. I don’t think that’s a proper metric to use.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
If they truly have MecGar on board these will be a game changer for these little guys assuming the steel doesn’t chew up the mag release or their steel replacement one works.

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Originally posted by iron chef:

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Originally posted by cslinger:
If they truly have MecGar on board these will be a game changer for these little guys assuming the steel doesn’t chew up the mag release or their steel replacement one works.

From Shield Arms' website:

What took so long?
While it always takes time to create tooling, what slowed us down is that to our knowledge, this magazine geometry has never been done before, so it took a little extra time for our magazine manufacturer to dial in tooling.

I doubt MecGar is their manufacturer. I find it hard to believe the world's largest and most respected pistol magazine manufacturer would have this much difficulty w/ tooling.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
So, do they have a flush-fitting twenty round magazine for the G19? Makes sense, doesn't it?

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It is Mec-Gar. Largest or not, this is completely new territory for anyone, jamming 15 rounds into that small space. What worked in prototype might not translate to smooth sailing when gearing up for production. Anyone still remember the P227 14-rounder fiasco?

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Originally posted by Chowser:
Shield said they were working on an all metal mag for the regular 43.

I think someone took a Glock 17 or 19 mag and shaved off the plastic and it fits in the 43x.
Or maybe that was something different? It doesn't look like it would fit.

Wonder if anyone has tried someone else's metal mag in a 19.

We'll all have to wait and see how this works and long term.

My 43X is one of my current EDCs and I feel fine with it. Well, the barrel needs to go to CCR for some CPII love, but other than that, it's good to go!