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P320 In 45…did Sig just give up?

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November 29, 2021, 10:32 AM
bcjwriter
P320 In 45…did Sig just give up?
I had a P320 full size in 45 ACP. But in a fit of stupidity I sold it. Now that I’m saving up money to buy another one I’m realizing they are difficult - if not impossible to find. I couu you LC only find 1 used full size on Gunbroker, and Sig only lists a compact version on the website. (I guess I could buy that then scrounge for the full size components… What’s the story, did Sig just give up on the 45 model?



November 29, 2021, 10:46 AM
92fstech
I share your frustration. I actually asked a sign rep this very question at a class last year. He told me at the time that they were focusing on the 9mm due to the huge demand outpacing thier production capacity for anything else, but he expected that we'd see the other calibers come back when things settled down. He couldn't speak to a timeframe for that, though.

I get it...of they can sell every 9mm they make, why bother with anything else. But it kinda sucks for those of us who have every 9mm variant that we want already, and would like to have something else. It seems like the competition has been making strides in the other direction lately, so maybe that will goad Sig into bringing some of the other stuff back.
November 29, 2021, 11:03 AM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by 92fstech:
I share your frustration. I actually asked a sign rep this very question at a class last year. He told me at the time that they were focusing on the 9mm due to the huge demand outpacing thier production capacity for anything else, ...

Staccato, maker of higher-end, semi-custom duty and competition 2011's, is doing the same thing. They dropped their single-stack lines and everything except 9mm.

I have a Sig P320F in .45 ACP. It's a terrific pistol and what caused me to give the .45 ACP cartridge another look, after shunning it for decades.

I've been mulling-over replacing it with a .45 ACP double-stack 1911 with a rail, since I've more-or-less decided to standardize on the 1911/2011 platform.

OTOH: I've got a great holster for it, the maker doesn't make holsters anymore Frown, and I shoot so well with it:



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November 29, 2021, 11:52 AM
Il Cattivo
Waiting for a full-sized version with a manual safety, myself. I can see why it might take a while, but then again I'm patient enough to wait for a factory version rather than trying to 'assemble' one with expensive-to-collect components. Odds are that I'll have to wait a bit longer on top of that to get the large-size grip frame cut for the thumb safety (you're gonna charge me for a grip frame then make me take an exact-o knife to it? Really?).

On the whole I have multiple reasons to hope that SIG really is in the process of producing a 320F in 10mm. I'd like one, but arguably that might also tend to make the parts available to the factory for the .45 I'd like to buy from them.
November 29, 2021, 11:56 AM
YooperSigs
I just quit carrying my 320 .45 Compact with manual safety. I dont think I could easily replace it should I lose it after using to defend myself. Loaded up my P-07 instead. I would love a full size.


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November 29, 2021, 01:14 PM
Delta-3
I too regret selling my full sized 320 in .45. It was the softest shooting .45 I ever shot. (and I'm a 40 year 1911 guy).


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November 29, 2021, 01:34 PM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by Delta-3:
I too regret selling my full sized 320 in .45. It was the softest shooting .45 I ever shot. (and I'm a 40 year 1911 guy).

I haven't had mine to the range for a while (and, it being my HD pistol, I should get some more time in with it), but I recall it was incredibly soft-shooting.

Those triple-taps, the target of which I posted, above, were not slow-fire.

Y'all are talking me out of switching it out for a 1911



"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
November 29, 2021, 01:46 PM
Lord Vaalic
quote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Waiting for a full-sized version with a manual safety, myself. I can see why it might take a while, but then again I'm patient enough to wait for a factory version rather than trying to 'assemble' one with expensive-to-collect components. Odds are that I'll have to wait a bit longer on top of that to get the large-size grip frame cut for the thumb safety (you're gonna charge me for a grip frame then make me take an exact-o knife to it? Really?).

On the whole I have multiple reasons to hope that SIG really is in the process of producing a 320F in 10mm. I'd like one, but arguably that might also tend to make the parts available to the factory for the .45 I'd like to buy from them.


Hard to believe 10mm would out sell .45, maybe I am vastly ignorant of the market. You would think if they released a 10mm some new flavors of .45 would also be coming.




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November 29, 2021, 02:22 PM
92fstech
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:

Hard to believe 10mm would out sell .45, maybe I am vastly ignorant of the market. You would think if they released a 10mm some new flavors of .45 would also be coming.


That's what I'm hoping. I'd love it if the lower could accept both 10mm and 45 uppers.
November 29, 2021, 03:07 PM
Challer
SIG promises much, but generally fails to deliver. Romeo 2? P320/10? Caliber kits for MPX/MCX? The reason to feed some of these SKUs - despite the fact that you can't keep up with 9mm - is to keep your base engaged.
November 29, 2021, 03:25 PM
M4Super90
quote:
Originally posted by 92fstech:
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:

Hard to believe 10mm would out sell .45, maybe I am vastly ignorant of the market. You would think if they released a 10mm some new flavors of .45 would also be coming.


That's what I'm hoping. I'd love it if the lower could accept both 10mm and 45 uppers.


When Bruce gray hinted at this earlier, I specifically asked about X Series grip availability and use with the .45. There was a strong implication that this would be the case.

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November 29, 2021, 03:37 PM
Il Cattivo
quote:
Originally posted by 92fstech:
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:

Hard to believe 10mm would out sell .45, maybe I am vastly ignorant of the market. You would think if they released a 10mm some new flavors of .45 would also be coming.


That's what I'm hoping. I'd love it if the lower could accept both 10mm and 45 uppers.

Suddenly SIG pricing for conversion kits begins to sound like it might actually....make sense.
November 29, 2021, 04:23 PM
10round
Last I heard, Sig concentrating on 9mm pistols just to keep up with demand.


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December 01, 2021, 12:38 AM
DBZ220
I still have a .45 Carry and would love to get an XCarry grip module for it. Hopefully someday they’ll revisit the .45s with more options.
December 01, 2021, 12:55 AM
bcjwriter
Seems like there’s plenty of interest - I hope the aftermarket steps in.



December 01, 2021, 01:24 AM
monoblok
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Hard to believe 10mm would out sell .45

Actually it's not hard at all if you were to see our sales numbers. For us--based upon customer requests--the G20 would easily outsell the .45 G21 by at least a 20:1 margin, if only Glock would make enough of them for the marketplace. And even then, some G21 buyers only buy that model only to convert it over to 10mm, simply because we happen to be out of the G20 at the time. A recent buyer of the last Gen4 G21 that I sold out of inventory was intending to do just that to his.

For us the only type where .45AUTO clearly outsells its 10mm "stablemate" is 1911s. Even with the P220, we sell more of them in 10mms than we do the 45s.


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