I haven't been in any hurry since the voluntary recall was announced. I guess there is some civic responsibility in sending it back for the recall. I've kicked around the idea of not sending it back at all. I'm not really pleased at how the modifications look cosmetically, but that's a minor issue I guess. Has anyone decided not to send their 320 back?

I'm not sending mine back yet, but it's only because I'm a completely irresponsible jackass who has no concern for the safety of those around him, to hear most folks here tell it.

I'm just going to wait a few years and make sure that all those nifty new widgets and tiny little springs that the factory added onto the gun don't do funny things like break or wear out prematurely, and make sure that all the competitive shooters who use the P320 with its "improvements" don't notice any adverse long term effects from the "upgrade," and then I'll probably break down and send mine in....in a decade or so.

In the meantime I promise I will endeavor really, really hard to NOT slam a sledgehammer into the back of the slide repeatedly while the gun is pointed at a daycare, and of course I will try my hardest to NOT drop it at just that one specific angle onto concrete after luring my mother-in-law to stand right where the muzzle is pointing upon impact.

Somehow I think all those precautions I've outlined above should keep the world reasonably safe from my obvious negligence and the resultant impending hail of unintentional gunfire that is sure to begin erupting at any moment around me for the next few years.

I got my notice a while ago, but I've been very busy.

I actually just dropped it off today, no joke.

IF you're going to carry it, get the "upgrade."

IF it's just a range gun, well, plenty of range guns aren't drop safe.

Folks who remember other major "upgrades" of other pistols, understand that 100% compliance isn't going to happen, and how could it, really.

Sending the pistol back is certainly a PITA, but the only actually inconvenient part is the signature on the return. Odds that someone is home are slim to none.

The world won't end if you don't do it, but good luck selling it, and if you actually manage to drop it just right, good luck.

I haven't yet, but it's mostly because I have little desire to shoot the pistol. I don't really like it and it will probably be the first I trade or sell. As such, it doesn't seem a priority.

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My buddies and I went shooting for New Year's Eve and one of them has an RX. He wanted to try my trigger before he sent his in. He shot them back and forth and said, "I can't tell a difference." So he's not sending it in.

He said he doesn't want to be without it that long. I told him my turnaround was 6 days. I don't really get it.

And to the poster above, it's not like these upgrades were just cobbled together in a couple days. The design was already in place for the military version. Yes, they're retrofitting, but it's not like there was half assed R&D.

I will say that I don't see the dramatic, imminent danger others do, as I believe it's incumbent on every firearm owner to handle their firearms appropriately. The same care you would have with say, a newborn. Even holstered on a belt, like the one cop supposedly did, firearms should be handled with proper care and caution. But I also don't see a big deal about shipping it in, postage paid.

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Originally posted by BuddyChryst:
And to the poster above, it's not like these upgrades were just cobbled together in a couple days. The design was already in place for the military version. Yes, they're retrofitting, but it's not like there was half assed R&D.

I'm sure you're right. And as soon as a fair handful of years of hard use proves that you're right, I'll send mine in. I promise.

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I'm sure you're right. And as soon as a fair handful of years of hard use proves that you're right, I'll send mine in. I promise.

Are you aware of how dumb this sounds?

I mean, hey, if it's what you want to do, you own it girl. But damn, you're not too bright.

Folks who just say "meh, I'm taking it to the range," Whatever. Of all the various rationale to not have an exposed flaw repaired, after all the hooplah, and you're still going to wait "a fair handful of years of hard use," really?

Really?

How long did you wait for the fucking Polio vaccine?

Damn man. Just damn.

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Originally posted by bcharvat:
I'm sure you're right. And as soon as a fair handful of years of hard use proves that you're right, I'll send mine in. I promise.

Are you aware of how dumb this sounds?

I mean, hey, if it's what you want to do, you own it girl. But damn, you're not too bright.

Folks who just say "meh, I'm taking it to the range," Whatever. Of all the various rationale to not have an exposed flaw repaired, after all the hooplah, and you're still going to wait "a fair handful of years of hard use," really?

Really?

How long did you wait for the fucking Polio vaccine?

Damn man. Just damn.

I'm not going to try to justify my intelligence level to you, mostly because it's not particularly high. Just ask my wife. I'm sorry that my refusal to send in my P320 seems to initiate an emotional response from you that has to include insulting me personally, but that's completely up to you.

When I think about the P320's current upgrade, I'm reminded of another venerable handgun design that was...ahem, "improved" by adding a safety feature: the 1911. Now, the vast, vast majority of 1911 owners whose 1911s include some variation of a firing pin block will never have any issue with it. Good for them. I am one of the rare few who DID have an issue with it. Incorrect timing of the firing pin lock levers led to a peened firing pin lock, which eventually led to a gun that wouldn't fire when asked to. In my personal instance, it occurred at the range. What if that had occurred during a fight for life?

Returning to the P320's drop safety "issue," I'm currently aware of a grand total of ONE individual officer who claims to have had his P320 discharge unintentionally from being dropped. That is one report out of the entire number of P320s made before the modified guns started being released to the public. All other youtube denizens who managed to recreate this phenomenon have been doing so under controlled conditions with the specific goal in mind of getting it to happen. Statistically speaking I don't think odds are good that I'm going to be number two, regardless of how haphazardly I handle my own P320.

And since you brought up the idiocy of not getting vaccinated for polio in this day and age, let me counter that with another (also spurious and unrelated) vaccine-based analogy. I go to see my doctor annually for a check-up. He has not once recommended that I get vaccinated for malaria. I know that a malaria vaccine exists and getting it would certainly safeguard me from contracting it, so is he not recommending it because he's a poor doctor?

No, I’m not planning on sending mine back. I don’t intend to drop mine from 6’ at a 30 degree angle on the slide from the back.

It’s a range gun and yes, I have others that you just breath on the triggers to set them off.

Apex wants their trigger back, but not for a refund....just some other “stuff” of the same or lesser value. That won’t happen either.

I have W-320-9-com-PRE L/E package it has a great trigger . I could not give my info to Sig on their web sight . I did trade a full size 320 that I later got the ok to send in , I called to send the compact instead and the guy took my info on the L/E gun and I never herd a thing . I do not like the looks of the thin trigger ,will the guy updating mine mess up the pre tension barrel lock up ??? How about I just replace the striker with the new lighter one and call it a day.

The 320 already passed ind standard tests . Should I send my old model Ruger guns in I dont think so what about some older Colt guns , 1911 I think not .

I have 5 to send back and hve not sent them yet. I love Sigs but would love to send all 5 back to sig for a full refund. This option should have been offered.

I want mine upgraded and I have yet to hear anything from Sig.

Over a month now.

I briefly thought about not sending them in but the upsides seem to outweigh the downsides and I sent mine in last week.

I have a FCU that Robert Burke did his magic on, that I probably will not send in. It has a Sig factory flat trigger installed that Sig is not replacing. Even though the upper was sent to Robert, I will be sending it as a "kit" with another gun. I do not know how much the disconnect helps the safety problem and would welcome comments on the value of the disconnect. End result is a Robert Burke original FCU with a Sig Flat trigger & an upgraded upper. Opinions?

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I briefly thought about not sending them in but the upsides seem to outweigh the downsides and I sent mine in last week.

These were my thoughts exactly. Sent it in and got it back in less than a week. Glad it's now done and taken care of.

I've got (4) P320's and I'm not planning on sending any of them back.

I took a wait and see attitude about sending mine back. I wanted to feel what the upgraded trigger felt like before making a decision. So far I've had the opportunity to feel 5 or 6 P320's with the upgrade and they've been somewhat hit or miss. Two of the upgraded P320 triggers downright sucked and I don't want to take the chance of having one of mine come back like that.

In my opinion, if there was a a serious safety concern with the P320, Sig would have issued a recall, not a voluntary upgrade.

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Ask Robert.

I’m in no hurry to send mine in. I like the trigger as is and I never carry it.

I was undecided, but finally leaned toward sending it back. Registered my FS45 a couple of months ago, and received my return info yesterday. I will get it packed up this weekend and send it in next week.

I did wait until I had read multiple reports that the *new* trigger was comparable to the old one on returned guns. I sure hope that is the case.