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Do We Want SIG, S&W, & Glock to Produce 5.7X28mm Firearms?

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January 24, 2020, 05:44 AM
SSAreGreat
Do We Want SIG, S&W, & Glock to Produce 5.7X28mm Firearms?
I have spoken to many people over time who stated that if the major manufacturers started producing firearms in 5.7 x 28mm cartridge that the ammo costs would drop and this round could become quite popular. I selected SIG Sauer, Smith & Wesson, and Glock because they have large lines of firearms and are very popular. There are quite a few companies who also produce outstanding firearms that are very popular such as Beretta, FN, Springfield Armory, Walter, CZ etc. but it was just easier to limit the title of this Poll to just three of the most most popular companies.For those of you who love the 5.7 x 28mm round but never bought one of the few firearms available for it because of ammo costs, how many of you would want at least SIG, S&W, & Glock start producing multiple firearms in 5.7 x 28mm?YesNoNot InterestedIf ammo costs for 5.7 x 28mm cartridges came down significantly would you buy a firearm it?YesNoNot Interested


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January 24, 2020, 05:55 AM
12131
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SIG, S&W, & Glock to Produce 5.7X28mm Firearms

Misleading thread title. Wink


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January 24, 2020, 06:01 AM
Dakor
FN was the first gun manufacturer to make firearms for that caliber (the P90 and the Five-Seven). While it’s an interesting round, where my personal shooting hobby is concerned, it will never displace the king of the hill in target shooting (the 22LR) and I’ve consolidated my SD ammo to 9 mm, 38 SP and 45 ACP. The latter wouldn’t even be in the stable were it not for my EB Kobra 1911.
I do enjoy variety and am glad to see manufacturers think outside the box. Perhaps someday I’ll change my mind but it’s hard to dethrone ammo that’s been around for a century.
January 24, 2020, 06:17 AM
MattW
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Originally posted by 12131:
quote:
SIG, S&W, & Glock to Produce 5.7X28mm Firearms

Misleading thread title. Wink


Very misleading.
January 24, 2020, 06:28 AM
SSAreGreat
quote:
Originally posted by Dakor:
FN was the first gun manufacturer to make firearms for that caliber (the P90 and the Five-Seven). While it’s an interesting round, where my personal shooting hobby is concerned, it will never displace the king of the hill in target shooting (the 22LR) and I’ve consolidated my SD ammo to 9 mm, 38 SP and 45 ACP. The latter wouldn’t even be in the stable were it not for my EB Kobra 1911.
I do enjoy variety and am glad to see manufacturers think outside the box. Perhaps someday I’ll change my mind but it’s hard to dethrone ammo that’s been around for a century.


It is not to "Dethrone" any ammo but to add another commonly used caliber.


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January 24, 2020, 06:33 AM
Dakor
^^^^ You design a poll around a consumer choice, but don’t want to hear the rationale. Hmmm... don’t ask the question if you don’t like hearing the round doesn’t fill a role for me over others where my gun choices are concerned.
January 24, 2020, 06:46 AM
jljones
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January 24, 2020, 07:36 AM
Dwill104
I think Ruger making their 57 pistol will get more people into the caliber because of the lower price compared to the FN pistol, but other companies also making 5.7 pistols likely won’t make it super popular all of a sudden. I think that it’s still going to be a boutique round and ammo prices are going to stay relatively high.
January 24, 2020, 07:50 AM
SSAreGreat
Well stated


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January 24, 2020, 10:21 AM
HRK
New firearms are good for the industry, gets people talking, gets customers in stores, maybe buying a new 5.7 gun or something else.

In reality, how many ways can you build a 9mm G19 clones, and not have just another G19

I think it's great, hope more jump on it, maybe the G44 will be the stepping stone to the GXX in 5.7 with polymer pistol parts, light, and a 12 round mag Big Grin
January 24, 2020, 05:26 PM
SSAreGreat
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Originally posted by HRK:
New firearms are good for the industry, gets people talking, gets customers in stores, maybe buying a new 5.7 gun or something else.

In reality, how many ways can you build a 9mm G19 clones, and not have just another G19

I think it's great, hope more jump on it, maybe the G44 will be the stepping stone to the GXX in 5.7 with polymer pistol parts, light, and a 12 round mag Big Grin


Thanks for the reply HRK. If Glock were to produce a gun in 5.7X28mm it would be a big boost to acceptance considering how popular and prevalent are Glocks.


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January 24, 2020, 05:39 PM
Lord Vaalic
I'm all for choices and as many calibers as anyone could want.

That said, for me personally I am not interested but for those who want 5.7 I hope they make lots of choices.




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January 24, 2020, 05:43 PM
hrcjon
I can't think of a single existing design of the above three manufacturers that has a grip frame long enough for a 5.7 round. so we are talking a complete frame up new pistol. Even as a long time 5.7 user I can't think of a single reason to prioritize working on that 5.7 new design over the 10,000 things I would rather those mfg. work on.


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January 24, 2020, 07:00 PM
smithnsig
Could you imagine how big the grip on a G57 would be?


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January 24, 2020, 08:43 PM
hrcjon
Yup about the size of the FN 5.7 pistol given the mag material. Ruger is just a bit better with a metal mag I'm told...


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January 24, 2020, 08:56 PM
HRK
About the size of a G40
January 24, 2020, 09:35 PM
9mm_shooter
I want the ammo to be cheaper, for sure, so more oguns in 5.7 could lead to more manufacturers making these rounds.
January 24, 2020, 11:32 PM
bobtheelf
I don't have interest in what would be a plinking gun at what could be .357SIG ammo prices.
January 24, 2020, 11:54 PM
colt_saa
I had a P90 when they first came out because it did look COOL, but I sold it off to a buddy who valued it's cool factor more than I did

I settled in upon the 22TCM Cartridge instead


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The 22TCM cartridge provides somewhat similar ballistics as the 5.7, but the 22TCM can be chambered in many firearms that chambers a 38 SUPER length cartridge. This includes AR-style rifles, carbines or SMGs. Even UZIs would be convertible to the 22TCM

My 5" 1911 moves the factory 40 grain JHPs out at just a tad over 2000 FPS.



The 22TCM cartridge is easily hand loadable. Brass and projectiles for the 22TCM are readily available and fairly inexpensive

Granted you can not use the really pointed projectiles like the 5.7, but that is not a problem for me

I do not see where the 5.7 comes in and provides anything else other than saying I have one more caliber


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January 25, 2020, 01:07 AM
nojoy
I would love to see Sig & Glock come out with a 5-7 pistol. I’d buy it in a heart beat.
For now, it will be a Ruger.