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P230 serial list seems out of whack.

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August 25, 2018, 09:11 AM
Udo
P230 serial list seems out of whack.
Ran across a Tysons Corner P230 serial S117 2XX. Checked the serial list and said "What the ...."
First bunch of serials and dates don't jive at all. Anyone have any ideas, thoughts or knowledge?

Sig Sauer P230

-S001-150-JD-1983-9mm Kurz = Thanks to elvin
-S004-61X-JG-1986-grips stamped 84 = Thanks to Cisco Kid
-S009-5XX-JH-1987-SL Stainless-Tysons Corner = Thanks to MILLERJE
-S111-5XX-JC-1982-Interarms-380 Auto = Thanks to onequickwrench
-S116-XXX-JD-1983 = Thanks to ger42
-S116-9XX-JE-1984 = Thanks to tchick
-S119-061-JG-1986-Tysons Corner = Thanks to SiGagain
-S119-2XX-JG-1986 = Thanks to 7DC
August 25, 2018, 09:43 AM
FenderBender
looks like you've got an 84/85ish gun, I'm not sure exactly what you're asking about.


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August 25, 2018, 09:53 AM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by FenderBender:
looks like you've got an 84/85ish gun, I'm not sure exactly what you're asking about.

Look again. The first three.


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August 25, 2018, 10:57 AM
OTD
quote:
Originally posted by Udo:
"What the ...."
First bunch of serials and dates don't jive at all.


Udo, serial numbers and proof date don’t have to correspond. The serial number is related to a manufacturing date in the factory. Proof firing is a different process performed by a different organization outside the factory. There is no connection between the two. Assuming a proof date was corresponding with the manufacturing date would lead to misinterpretations. Another reason for non corresponding proof dates are reserved serial number ranges for certain customers. The list of serial number has to be taken as a rule of thumb with some exceptions. Out of whack numbers are possible for that reason, Wink.
August 25, 2018, 06:50 PM
Udo
Udo, serial numbers and proof date don’t have to correspond. The serial number is related to a manufacturing date in the factory. Proof firing is a different process performed by a different organization outside the factory. There is no connection between the two. Assuming a proof date was corresponding with the manufacturing date would lead to misinterpretations. Another reason for non corresponding proof dates are reserved serial number ranges for certain customers. The list of serial number has to be taken as a rule of thumb with some exceptions. Out of whack numbers are possible for that reason, Wink.[/QUOTE]

I'm fully up to speed on the serial/proof date relationship that can jostle the sequence of serials. The early P220's also showcase the difference.

-G100-1XX-JA-1980-7.65mm Para
-G100-215-HG-1976-9mm = Thanks to Udo (Frame serial on top of left rear rail, proofs on right cheek, No import mark)
-G100-46X-HG-1976-9mm = Thanks to Udo/kauphycup
-G100-8XX-HG-1976-9mm = Thanks to onequickwrench
-G100-8XX-JA-1980-7.65mm Para
-G100-933-JA-1980-7.65mm Para

What is odd to me is that the three lowest P230 serials cover a four year period without any others mixed in.

P.S. I have tracked down three other P220's in the first one thousand. and will report on them soon.
August 25, 2018, 11:55 PM
BuddyChryst
Want me to add to it?

P230SL, # S047 3XX, KE. Purchased last year as police turn-in.

So my best guess would be 0 prefix is LE designated and 1 prefix is civvy?

Who knows?


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August 26, 2018, 05:37 AM
OTD
SIG did not use designated serial number patterns for different markets except for government contracts or on request as we know it from the BDA or the BGS contracts. Serial number rage for the P230 start with S001001 and is atypical while serial number of the prototypes are used traditionally from the P210 series. Early P230’s had been shipped to LEO departmens in Zürich and Schaffhausen but not exclusively. Such pistols had been chambered in 9mm Ultra but had been available on the public market as well. Like I mentioned above, serial numbers and proof date do not have to match because manufacturing and proof tests are not related to each other. They can, but do not have to.
August 26, 2018, 09:07 AM
Pipe Smoker
Udo, are you from Missouri? Growing up in a small Missouri town, “out of whack” was an oft-heard expression. Smile



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August 26, 2018, 12:23 PM
Blume9mm
My serial number is off the wall too:

S033535


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August 26, 2018, 04:06 PM
Udo
quote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
Udo, are you from Missouri? Growing up in a small Missouri town, “out of whack” was an oft-heard expression. Smile


in the neighborhood. I'm from western Nebraska.
August 28, 2018, 11:26 PM
Mauser96
For what it's worth:
S009-8XX-JH-1987-SL Stainless-Tysons Corner
Purchased new in September 1988.