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Thanks. We can close the thread ________________________ "The Revolver -A more elegant weapon from a more civilized age." | |||
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I would like to say. I like my DAK Guns and will never see any reason to change. I don't do gun games and carry for animal control. {skunk etc} I like the features that the DAK has for a carry gun. Nice smooth trigger. The first reset is in just the right place for a reset to be. Gun games is different than carry and I can see if your buddy can empty a box or 2 or 3 of ammo faster than you, it means something to some shooters.{that does not matter for carry} I like that the DAK de-cocks itself without any action by the shooter. Loading one in the chamber and the gun automatically de-cocks . Very safe. A bucket of sand or a bullet trap have nothing to do with a DAK. It's like a flat revolver with higher capacity, a smoother trigger system and is very easy to just change mags to "Top it off"This message has been edited. Last edited by: roym, | |||
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https://www.shootingtimes.com/...iews_sig070606/99285 January 03, 2011 By G&A Staff Department Of Homeland Security Chooses SIG's DAK "SIGARMS (Dept. ST, 18 Industrial Dr., Exeter, NH 03833; 603-772-2302; www.sigarms.com) is having a very good year. It started last June when the Rhode Island state police completed its transition to the SIG P226R in .357 SIG as its standard duty firearm and reported that since November 2003 approximately 100,000 rounds had been fired through 200 duty pistols with no mechanical failures. This was important because Rhode Island was the first agency in the country to adopt the new SIG DAKtm trigger system--a double action only (DAO) mechanism designed to provide a safe and reliable 6.5-pound trigger pull, which is much lighter than conventional DAO triggers." 10x Sniper, There is LOT more information in this eleven year old article about performance testing, reliability, adoption by .gov agencies and a good illumination of the DAK system. ____________________ | |||
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| Lead slingin' Parrot Head  |
I agree, that particular article is excellent for anyone trying to understand the DAK system and I've referenced it several times myself in these forum discussions over the years. It's important to keep in mind though that the DAK system was slightly modified after that article was written. Also, without digging out my original hard copy of the article in storage, I'm %98.4 certain that it was originally written in the 2004-2005 time frame. The 2011 date listed in the article is when Shooting Times finally got around to uploading the archived article onto their website. | |||
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| Lead slingin' Parrot Head |
I truly hope to chase one of those down one day. Not an easy task...but hey, a guy can dream.  | |||
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| Lead slingin' Parrot Head |
IIRC, GG does, or at least did, offer an action job for the DAK. | |||
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| Not as lean, not as mean, Still a Marine  |
Was there a trigger (SIG or others) that was DA, short reset to SA, or full reset back to DA? (Opposite of the DAK system I guess). I swear I remember one, but haven't found records of it. I shall respect you until you open your mouth, from that point on, you must earn it yourself. | |||
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| Lead slingin' Parrot Head |
Off the top of my head I can't think of an action that matches that description. Could you possibly be thinking of the Browning BDM (or variants), Walther P99/ S&W 99 (or variants), or one of the HK USP series trigger variants that allow for toggling between modes? | |||
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| Not as lean, not as mean, Still a Marine |
I asked a friend of mine from the range, and he doesn't recall it either. But he thinks I may be mis-remembering a Tarus 24/7 that he had, that used a "Second Strike" DA striker system. We had a lot of light primer hits, and that may be what I'm thinking of (light reset for the striker, heavier pull for the DA 'second strike'). I had honestly forgotten about that gun, and for good reason. He sold it not long after that time at the range. I shall respect you until you open your mouth, from that point on, you must earn it yourself. | |||
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I knew you'd weigh in, and I knew exactly what you'd say. Nothing has changed after all these years! Great minds think, and shoot alike  Bye for a while, guard the fort. - My Dad | |||
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lbj had a DAK... ...and he LIKED IT!!!  | |||
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I don't know if this answers your question but my very early Walther P99 has a weird trigger system. Its basically a striker but with the ability to have a long but light first pull, a short and light first pull, or decock it entirely and have a long heavy first pull. In any event the second pull is just a normal short reset light pull. I think they had some name for it later on like Quick Action or something like that. I haven't really followed the Walthers so I don't know what it is called. I always liked that gun though, it's kind of the perfect striker fired action to my mind. I wish it had become more popular across the board. | |||
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That was the AS trigger system on the old P99. I had one and it was just okay in my opinion. For some reason I couldn't shoot it that well but I am sure that was just me. I never tried the DAK, I tried the LEM and I didn't like it. | |||
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I own multiple LEM’s for some reason. I really like HK but their triggers are for shit. I used to think I could get to love LEM. Never did, closest was a Todd Green Special P2000 that I do shoot lights out with. Still don’t like LEM. Or DAK. AS is Anti Stress I believe. I don’t think the P99 is perfect by any means. I just liked the ability to decock the striker for things such as appendix carry. Right or wrong I will not appendix a Glock. The P99 allowed you to dumb down the system to basically zero spring tension on the striker. My comment was intended to mean that I wish some company would have taken that idea and ran with it. Have a striker under tension or zero tension depending in the setting and your comfort. The market didn’t think so apparently. | |||
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I had a few DAKs, they are nice and smooth like my Kahr CW9, but they don’t compare to my P30 light lem! I did install a Gray Gun short reset kit, and that trigger is nice | |||
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I have always wanted a DAK ever since the Sig rep brought two prototype P220s to us in the early 2000s to try when we were switching from our SA/DA P220s we had in service for twelve years. I have often thought of converting my P228 (manufactured in 2009) I won from Q to DAK. | |||
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Mr. Robert Burke kindly converted my M11-A1 to DAK and i couldn't be happier. My first Sig is a first gen P239 in DAK and still can't believe how well i can shoot it. If you are interested, i cannot recommend him highly enough. Turn around was a week, seriously. | |||
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Thank you. I will have to look in to that.
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I started as a revolver shooter. I can shoot a revolver very well. I have a P239 DAK in 9mm. One in 357 Sig. And a P229 9mm DAK. I like appendix carry. I won’t carry a cocked and locked, striker (with or without an off switch) pointed at my femoral artery. The P239 is a Smooth, flat revolver with a good trigger. I don’t have to remember to de cock it. Is a good system for me. | |||
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The first handgun I carried was a double action revolver. To me, the DAK represented the same concept, with benefits. I like it. I have the HKLEM, and while not the same system, to me the DAK and LEM were comparable to some degree. I like the LEM, and carried a pistol with LEM for some tkme, and own several now. Same for DAK, though I never carried it; I have DAK pistols and like them, and wouldn't hesitate to carry them. As a trigger system, it's perfectly viable, learnable, for anyone, if they choose. The poster here who can elaborate on it best has already posted, and I have nothing to add to the detailed functionality that he can offer on the subject, but as an owner and a DAK shooter, I have nothing bad to say about it. I'd buy another, with the right opportunity. | |||
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