Thinking about a new 357 Magnum with a 3" or possibly a 4" barrel. On the list Kimber, S&W, Colt and Ruger. A smooth DA trigger a significant issue. Opioins on the current manufacturers? Just looking on line the Kimber is attractive but never held one or tried the trigger.
The Kimber has a good but odd trigger for a revolver.
Smith makes a great revolver barring QC issues. Triggers vary out of the box but all get better with age.
My last GP100 actually had a better trigger out of the box then most Smiths. The GP100 has the best locking system and that is what helps it last with lots of hot or heavy loads.
I don’t have any experience with current Colts.
Honestly if it were my dollar I feel like a Smith 686 or GP100 will both offer you a fantastic revolver with the same basic QC problems that may give you a lemon or problems. I own both I like both. I have a pre lock 686+ 2.5 inch that is awesome and a 3 inch GP100 that feels and shoots great. If you take the mystique and collectibility out of it I think I like the GP more.
But at the end of the day this is one of those “religion, politics, abortion” type questions. Folks have. STRONG feelings about their hogleg of choice.
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Posts: 7967 | Location: On the water | Registered: July 25, 2002
Look for a nice pre-lock S&W in a Model 19 or 686. Best 'off the shelf' trigger pulls in a standard revolver. They range from $500 to around $ 700 and will hold their value or increase in value if kept in nice condition, IMHO.
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Posts: 915 | Location: Acadiana | Registered: February 14, 2009
Originally posted by Gambit: Look for a nice pre-lock S&W in a Model 19 or 686. Best 'off the shelf' trigger pulls in a standard revolver. They range from $500 to around $ 700.
Yeah, one of my several 'great deals' was a pawn shop buy one Christmas season about 10 years ago. They were due for an ATF inspection and were trying to move used guns fast to cut down on inventory. S&W 66-3, 4" with rubber & wood grips, plus box - $350 after I balked at the $450 sale price. It had seen some honest use and needed a new rear sight leaf, but had a smooooooth DA and crisp SA trigger.
Go N frame 357 and never look back. Pro series fine. 8 rounds not 6. N frame will accommodate 44 mag, 357 even full house it eats right up. I have several ruger 357 including GP100 and blackhawk and much prefer the Smiths, just shoot them better. I would wait on Colts to iron out bugs from their new snakes
Posts: 1258 | Location: Duvall WA, USA | Registered: February 08, 2004
Originally posted by Gambit: Look for a nice pre-lock S&W in a Model 19 or 686. Best 'off the shelf' trigger pulls in a standard revolver. They range from $500 to around $ 700 and will hold their value or increase in value if kept in nice condition, IMHO.
THIS, would also be my suggestion. I love my model 19. I've fed it lots of 158 grain .357's......but if you want to feed it hotter stuff go with a 586/686.
There was a GP-100 Stainless 6" barrel at the shop last year. I kept procrastinating on it. I ended up selling it to a guy for $575.00. I really liked the trigger on it. Still kicking myself for not grabbing it myself.
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Posts: 8444 | Location: Livingston County Michigan USA | Registered: August 11, 2002
Kimber K6S hammerless is solid. Chamber timing seems quicker than either Smiths or Rugers. If I was to do one again, it would be the DA/SA variant (external hammer). 357M Wheelgun options are many. Do you want 5 or 6 or 7 rounds? Ruger SP101 with 2 1/4 barrel or 3” makes for a reliable carry and handles full house Magnum loads rather well. Ruger even makes it in 327 Magnum ( nothing to sneeze at ) with the benefit of 6 instead of the traditional 5 rounds. Ruger GP100 & Smith & Wesson 686 will work a lifetime of hard use but not as easy to EDC as the K6S or SP101. Although I own a few Magnum capable revolvers, I usually carry them loaded with 38+P in urban settings. Modern 38 +P is more than adequate for things wearing shoes. Alas, if I could only have one, it would be a 3” GP100 in either 357M or 10mm as I just like its balance. Your wheel gun preference will be up to you
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Posts: 13868 | Location: VIrtual | Registered: November 13, 2009
back in the 80's we would have discussions about forged vs cast frames. S&W is forged, while Ruger is cast. I forget what Kimber and Colt are now, but colt was once forged.
I prefer forged since you get more strength per ounce of metal, but last time I brought this up on the forum, I got blasted for even mentioning it. It seems this is a touchy topic for some shooters.
But it's worthwhile to learn a little about each type.
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Posts: 11156 | Location: 45 miles from the Pacific Ocean | Registered: February 28, 2003
I'm a Ruger Fan. S&W makes a very nice revolver, but I like the beefiness of the Rugers, I like how the trigger group is removable as a unit, I prefer their cylinder release design, and the absence of a Hillary hole.
My 4" GP100 is possibly the most accurate handgun I own. It's not so heavy that I couldn't comfortably belt-carry it all day, but yet heavy enough that it tames stout .357 loads with aplomb. The trigger is smooth and breaks crisply, and the factory grip is comfortable. A nice S&W Model 19 or 27 may be a bit more refined and collectible, but as a shooter, my GP100 gives up nothing to them.
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The Ruger GP100 Match Champion is a fine 357 revolver. Out of the box trigger is very nice. The classic “built like a tank” Ruger design on this one means my grandchildren will be shooting it one day. On the other hand, as many here have mentioned, a S&W 686 is another great choice.
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