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I want to buy a VP9. Well, I actually want to buy a CC9 but they are not on the roster. Seems like VP9s are finally available; I hope that CC9 will be available but I'm guessing not anytime soon. Both the OR and non-OR versions are available. I don't think I will put a RDS on it. I would if the Deltapoint Micro was available for it. But I'm probably not going to put an RMRc on it; just stick w/ the irons. I don't plan to ever sell it either. I may not use it but wouldn't sell it. Is there any disadvantage to getting the OR version if I'm not planning to use it. Getting the OR version allows me the flexibility to use it if I change my mind. But given the probability that I won't use it, any disadvantage to getting it? If not, I may just get the OR version. If there is a disadvantage, then I'd probably lean toward getting the non OR version since I have no plans to use it. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | ||
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I suggest getting the OR version. One day you may get the itch to try a RDS on it, and getting the OR version now will save you the headache of finding a smith to mill the slide or buy a separate OR slide. The screws seem prettt tight on the OR models, so I wouldn’t worry about them backing out and losing the plate while firing. | |||
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OR version. That way if it acts like the one VP9 I've encountered in person, you'll have an easier time selling it. I've never seen a gun from a reputable manufacturer have so many problems on the range. But admittedly it was a sample size of one. Honestly, I can't see a downside to going Optics Ready, unless there's a significant price difference and you're 100% sure you'll never mount one. | |||
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Agree 100% - Buy OR for all the reasons mentioned above. My 65 year old eyes love Optics - now. | |||
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Okay. thanks. I'll get the OR ready version. Price difference is not much (5%). I'm pretty sure I won't sell it or install a RDS unless the DP Micro is available for it. I have an RMRc that I could install but I don't care for it much. But maybe my mind will change someday. If there is no downside to getting the OR, I'll do that. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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Yeah for that little difference in price I think that is a no brainer. I check the HK Pro forum frequently and never ever heard of any problems with the slide on an OR VP9 or any VP9.I have seen extremely few problems in total reported with the VP9 variants and there are a LOT of them out there these days. It's a great pistol. My VP9 has been 100 percent shooting thousands of rounds of a wide variety of ammo. | |||
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I agree for the difference, I would go OR. You might also look at the VP9sk, if you are looking for something a little more compact. | |||
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Go with OR. Having options is always good! End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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I would buy only optics ready if it will take the optic you want to mount. I would not want to use any plate system. So if you want an acro then make sure its native cutout fits acro, or rmr etc depending on the optic. First In Last Out | |||
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Get the OR version. You may change your mind and decide you want a dot. Even though you don't plan to sell, if you should it makes the gun more desirable. | |||
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It's impossible to design a plateless system that's universal enough for even a few of the optic options. The VP9 plate system is factory, is well designed and reliable. I've run it with both RMR and ACRO with tens and tens of thousands of rounds. I myself would buy the OR version, it has no downside when its not being used and it has upside if you decide to use it. Me personally the key issue on configuring the VP9 is to buy the 'B' version as its much better than the paddle IMO. “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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Thanks guys. OR version it is. Still waffling between vp9 and vp9sk. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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I'd think you'd like the >4" barrel more than the <3.5" one of the SK. I had a chance to shoot the VP Match a bit and the 5.5" barrel is really too long for easy handling No, Daoism isn't a religion | |||
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When I’m selling any pistol at work I always recommend that the customer purchases the OR gun over the non OR. Ultimately the choice is theirs but I always point out the fact even if they never go with an optic that if they decide to trade up or sell it the OR feature will make it more marketable at least in this area. -------------------------------------—————— ————————--Ignorance is a powerful tool if applied at the right time, even, usually, surpassing knowledge(E.J.Potter, A.K.A. The Michigan Madman) | |||
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I have both optics equipped pistols and not. There are absolute tangible benefits to running an optic and if you have the basic fundamentals of pistol shooting down transitioning to an optic is far far easier then some folks would have you believe. That said I still feel optics on a pistol are far less of a “paradigm shift” then rifle optics and I personally THINK I still prefer irons on pistols for most uses. I say all that to say ….. BUY THE OPTICS READY model whenever possible. There is almost no downside to having the ability to run an optic at some point in the future even if you never do so. Now do I think you should cut that pristine 1911 or P7 for an optic just in case? HELL NO!!!! But if you are buying a new Glock …… meh get the MOS and even if you never remove the plate you still have a Glock but if you have the need or want you can throw the most modern auto targeting whiz bang optic of the day on. Just my two cents and they are probably worth four whole cents because I prefer irons.  "Guns are tools. The only weapon ever created was man." | |||
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I have never really liked the VP9 (I have owned one) and I don’t FEEL like they are built to the same HK standards as other models. That said I’ve never seen one have major issues. Early 115 grain powder puff problems? Absolutely, most HK’s are fit tight and oversprung but they generally loosen up and run anything but even the VP’s are pretty well made and reliable. You must have had a lemon. Again this is coming from a guy who doesn’t particularly like the VP series. I’ll take a Glock 17 all day every day over a VP9 and I am not even a “Glock guy” ……….ok I have 6 Glocks but I really am an HK fanboi so to speak I guess. Well as much of a single brand “fanboi” as I can muster which is……….well if it has a trigger and makes a boom and expels a projectile safely …..I am a fanboi. I DON’T HAVE A PROBLEM!!! YOUR NOT MY SUPERVISOR!!!  "Guns are tools. The only weapon ever created was man." | |||
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I think I'm leaning toward the VP9, not the SK. I have the 26. I like the 26 but prefer the 19 over the 26. And I think I'll prefer the vp9 over the 19. I tried the vp9 before and loved it. I haven't tried the sk and I think I would like it but I think I'll start w/ the vp9. I looked into detail stripping. Ugh. I can fully disassemble a 19 in about 10 minutes. Maybe 5. And with so few parts, it's intuitive putting it all back together (important since I'm not mechanically inclined). I didn't know that the vp9 had so many parts, pins, springs. And seems like you need a punch and hammer, just the 'glock tool' to strip it down. The saving grace is that I think I will only need to field strip it; detailed stripping will be a rare necessity (every 20k rounds?). It probably seems simple to you guys. I'm mechanically challenged and I'm already apprehensive of detail stripping it. It's actually one reason I moved to glocks - it's easy to strip and replace any part. Even I could do it. Still, I loved shooting the vp9 - it was a natural fit for me. I'll figure it out. Just disappointed in how many spare parts I'll need to get and how complicated stripping seems to be (vs the glock). Especially that weird connector (?) spring. Why? I hope I just need to field strip for new gun cleaning and not have to detail strip it. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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When I got my first VP9 I looked at that mechanism for the firing pin disconnect and thought what is wrong with the engineers at HK. This after long reliable runs using a USP in competition. But now 15K rounds through one VP9 and a bunch through the backup one I don't worry very much about the mechanics of the gun. Has never missed a beat. Fits me well and I shoot it well. I once ran a reliability test of 3K rounds no lube, no cleaning and it still did fine. I have never detailed stripped it FWIW. I don't know about spares but I have never broken a part. I change the recoil spring of course. I am considering a barrel replacement just because the wear looks like I should, but the gun hasn't sent me any hints. Don't ignore my note above, you want the 'B' version. “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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I don't recommend detail stripping the VP9 and there should not be a need for that. Plenty of reports of HK VP9s with high round counts (tens of thousands of rounds) and zero problems. The one area that people do run into a problem with detail stripping is the trigger bar spring and getting it put back together without a problem. Below is a link to what that part looks like and best leaving that part alone LOL. The VP9 has shown to be a very robust design. Yeah I love shooting mine too. https://hkparts.net/all-parts/...ger-bar-form-spring/ | |||
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Oh, like the gentleman that came into the store inquiring where he could get the slide on his PRISTINE Belgian Hi-Power cut for an optic? I treed to steer him towards something OR but he was having none of that. He indicated that there was no sentimental attachment to it in any way, it was just a tool. -------------------------------------—————— ————————--Ignorance is a powerful tool if applied at the right time, even, usually, surpassing knowledge(E.J.Potter, A.K.A. The Michigan Madman) | |||
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