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Staying away form the 1911s, there have been some awesome suggestions. The field is more populace than many folks think

I do own or have owned all of the firearms that I make mention of here

SIG has lots to offer. There are the alloy framed P220 and P227 along with the stainless framed P220 MSE, P220 Sport, P220 Sport Stock and P220 X6.

The hard to find P220 Ernst Langdon model also has a stainless frame. This two tone firearm shipped from the factory with the Karl Nills wood grips



My P227 is going to the range with me on Tuesday. While the flush fit magazine is sold as a 10 round and the longer magazine is a 14 round, if you replace the tall locking piece with a flat one from say a P226 magazine you gain an extra round in each. This is an old trick for the P320 magazines. There is almost enough room for a 12th round in that P227 mag, but not quite



The CZ97 is a wonderful pistol, but may be pricey due to lack of availability. The ASAI One Pro is probably the finest CZ style pistol I have ever come across. It is Swiss built with a trigger that is not to be believed.

The Tangfolio Witness pistols are a great choice. They share the CZ97 10 round magazine as do most all of the CZ style clones. The Elite Match is a superb pistol at a reasonable price.



The HK USPs have been mentioned and they are awesome. They are actually more affordable today than they were 6-8 years ago. There is the entry level USP or the supressor ready USP Tactical and then the target grade USPs the Expert, Match and Elite. These ship with 12 round magazines, but a follower change allows 14 rounds to be held in a flush fit





If the USPs and their 14 round magazine are too big for your hands, there is the HK45 which is designed around a narrower 10 round magazine. While I own one, I do not see any advantage to it, though I have large paws on the ends of my arms

If you want something that is more old world and I think on the cool side, there is the striker fired, HK P9s. Single stack 45s that are match accurate from back in the 1970s. These were also one of the first pistols to use polymer in the lower frames.



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Posts: 5181 | Location: Cocoa Beach, Florida | Registered: November 04, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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A hammer-fired metal-framed .45 that isn't a P220 or a 1911, or a CZ.

I think you have to look to the US for them, as .45acp was traditionally a USA caliber- while the rest of the world used other, smaller, calibers- especially 9mm.

S&W 45x series was mentioned. They have a reputation for being solid performers, but I never cared for the trigger on S&W metal framed semi-autos.

One option that wasn't DIRECTLY mentioned was the .45acp version of the Magnum Research Baby Eagle. I say directly, as it is basically a tanfoglio/cz copy. Also, the older Astra Model 90 or 100, or Taurus PT945, or Ruger P90, or Beretta 8045, if you can find these six. All are metal frame, hammer fired .45acp semi-autos.

The Star Model P, PD or PS series, like the Ballester Molina, is going to feel similar in the hand to a 1911, but without a grip safety and with a pivoting trigger.


If we branch out to polymer frames, there will be a few more options [HK USP, HK45, Ruger P345, Ruger P97, FNX-45, Beretta PX4 Storm, Beretta 8045 mini cougar, and who knows what else], but by the time polymer was becoming reliable, strikers were also coming of age.


It might be helpful to figure out why the 1911 doesn't work for you. I am not pushing it, but a well tuned one is hard for me to say no to.


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There's a P90DC for sale locally. Very retro Cool

 
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Thanks for all of the thoughts and suggestions. My first step will be finding a P220 rental.


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A Beretta 8045 Cougar, if you can find one. Soft shooter.
 
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I have a full sized P220 and a P220 Carry SAS...the Carry SAS pistol shoots (at least for me) way better than the full sized.


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Look for a P220 Carry Elite. I have this, another P220 circa 2000 and a Dan Wesson Heritage. The P220CE is my favorite of the three.



See there you go, posting that teaser again Wink

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I like the Ruger P90 and S&W 4516-1, but neither ever fit my hand, so I don't have either.

I'll take a full-sized Sig P220 all day long.
 
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I really wanted to love my HK USP45. The dual stack make the grip pretty big. Never shot it well.

My 1911 fits perfectly. a bit heavy, though.

That said 12 rounds in that USP and it's heavy too.
 
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Hard to beat a SIG P220 variant for an all metal framed, Hammer fired option if you don’t want a 1911.

Very reliable, good to great triggers, durable, feel great, good recoil control, cheap………er than buying a helicopter. Smile. It’s perfect. Smile


This right there. IMHO, the classic Sig P220 is an excellent option for a 45acp.


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I'm thinking of picking up a .45 auto to see if its something I would like. I have enough 9mm and .40. I strongly prefer hammer-fired autos over strikers, and probably metal frame over polymer. I do have my father's Colt National Match, but I already know I do not shoot the 1911 platform well in any caliber. This will be primarily a range toy, as opposed to carry. I am aware of the P220 of course, and the HK's. I'm reaching out to this fine group to see if there are any others I should consider? The CZ 97 is out of production.


Ok, you want all metal, hammer fired gun that is not a 1911 style so likely not SAO but DA/SA.

I'd say you can't go wrong with a P220, even a used one instead of paying a lot more for brand new.

CZ 97's are in stock at online stores, I don't have personal experience with those but I've never heard anything bad.

https://www.wikiarms.com/guns?q=806703014111

I used gun.deals/wikiarms.com and found this below...

https://www.impactguns.com/sem...03014111-01411/#wiki
 
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