The linked video shows a New York Police Department officer shooting at a man charging with a knife.

Several years ago it was reported that the NYPD approved P226 pistols for duty carry, but they had to be double action only.*

This series of screen shots from the video shows that the hammer is uncocked in the first picture.
The second shows the pistol being fired.
And the third shows that the hammer is again in the forward, uncocked position after the slide returns to battery.
The sequence starts about 1:17 in the video.









LINK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-CuuxgJs-U

* The reported contract overrun specimen I purchased had a red DAK mainspring that made the DAO pull weight about 13+ pounds.

That left thumb...

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Originally posted by MikeGLI:
That left thumb...

Yes. I saw that too.
In fact it was what first caught my attention, and then I noticed that the hammer did not remain cocked after the gun was fired.

The thumb needs to go there so you can get both index fingers on the trigger for extra leverage to help with the department-mandated 20 pound trigger pull.

Also sounds like the cop in the doorway lit him up with the tazer as well.

The video link doesn't work unless you sign in, so without signing in, did the perp get sideways before he reached the officers ?

The description of the incident:

Queens, New York — On Friday, March 8, 2024, at approximately 6:49 p.m., several 9-1-1 callers reported that a man was inside of a residential building in the vicinity of 62nd Avenue and 102nd Street, and was stabbing others with a knife. The investigators say it started during a baby's first birthday party, when the suspect, the baby's grandfather, started stabbing his wife. She fled and ran down the hallway, screaming for help. Police Officer O'Rourke, Officer Taveras, and Sergeant Raymond Decostanzo, along with additional officers assigned to the 112th Precinct, responded to the location.

Upon arrival, the officers entered the building and encountered 46-year-old Djamshed Nematov in a hallway in possession of a knife in his right hand. The officers ordered Nematov to drop the knife, however Nematov charged at them while brandishing the knife. As a result, Officer O'Rourke discharged one shot from her service firearm, Officer Taveras discharged three shots from his service firearm, and Sergeant Decostanzo discharged his Taser Conducted Energy Weapon, at Nematov. Nematov was struck by the gunfire and fell to the ground. Nematov was transported via ambulance to New York-Presbyterian Queens Medical Center where he was pronounced deceased. The woman suffered at least two stab wounds. She is currently recovering at an area hospital. Nematov's knife was recovered at the scene of the incident during this investigation.

For a time, the NYPD authorized 3 different handguns, a DAO 226, DAO S&W 59 series, or a glock 19 with the NY+ trigger spring. NYPD is a bit odd, since despite being in one of the most anti gun. State in the country, they also mandate the officer purchase the issued firearm, which come directly from stocks maintained by the NYPD. More recently they have discontinued all options except the glock and if memory serves, an officer can choose a 19 or 17. The 17’s are actually issued with special 15 round capacity magazines for uniform capacity regardless of which gun is chosen.
The NYPD has something like close to 40 thousand officers, so they don’t transition duty guns like other agencies. You buy your own gun, and when a new model is approved, the existing officers guns are grandfathered in. This is why it was only about 5 years or so ago the last handful of officers carrying revolvers were forced to transition to an auto. So there are still plenty of officers carrying the older S&W and 226 guns

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Djamshed Nematov

I went to look up his name--I suspect Chechen or something similar--but just saw "Family mourns death of..." and the AG is investigating cops. Because mental illness, don't you know.

Last I heard the Dallas PD issues a DAO P226 as well.
Unless they changed it in the last couple of years..

Does NYPD issue FMJ duty ammo? I wouldn’t be real surprised if they do. If so, seems one of the officers made a nice shot to stop Djamshed with so few rounds expended.

During my instructor days, I received the NYPD yearly report on use of firearms. One of the most surprising statistics I saw was how often they fired on each other. No surprise, given the size of the agency.

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The thumb needs to go there so you can get both index fingers on the trigger for extra leverage

Laugh you may, but I know a couple of ladies who independently discovered that technique. One had an Sig, the other a Ladysmith. Both were DA/SA and they needed both fingers for the DA start and just stayed with them after the crunch-tick.

I believe NYPD currently carries Gold Dot 124 +P duty ammo. They have always had DAO handguns, including revolvers that couldn't be cocked. I was told the NYPD firearms training unit runs 24/7 quals just to get everyone qualified yearly.

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That left thumb...

Perfectly valid with revolvers (especially small-frame ones), a good way to get "slide-bit" with autos. But if it works, it's not stupid.

I'm told by family working there, the NY+ trigger is gone... but only for those coming out of the academy. I guess they don't want to have to retrain everyone so they can actually hit something.

No idea what the new pull weight is, I'm sure it's not light though. lol

That is insane to have a DAO, especially with the horrible heavy-long trigger in their NY guns but it is NY and I guess the higher ups know better. I wonder how well the majority do with accuracy. The Glock NY triggers were at least manageable.

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Originally posted by arfmel:
Does NYPD issue FMJ duty ammo? I wouldn’t be real surprised if they do. If so, seems one of the officers made a nice shot to stop Djamshed with so few rounds expended.

Originally when NYPD transitioned to autopistols they actually did carry FMJ ammo for several years until eventually switching to JHP ammunition Speer Gold Dot 124+P. I have a friend that was a NYPD Officer and worked at Rodman’s Neck for a few years. I believe they made the switch from FMJ to JHP in 1999.

The hammer looks wrong for an NYPD DAO 226. Unless it was one of the earlier ones.

My Brother carried one when he got on NYPD post 9/11. It had the Stainless trigger, grip screws and a bobbed stainless steel hammer.

Link to an example

FMJ's ^ yes I think the "street cops" (NYPD) did for a while, Transit and possibly Housing didn't. Then they merged and became one big unhappy family using JHP's. Transit was using 147 JHP's when the transitioned to semi autos. Afterwards they all standardized with 124 JHP's IIRC.


(For decades there was the New York City Police Department, New York City Transit Police and New York City Housing Authority Police Department. Now they're one department with different bureaus.)