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Ryan at SIG customer service said I should shoot the pistol for another 500-1000 rounds and if this failure that is occurring every 7-10 rounds (four different factory brands) continues to occur then call SIG back to arrange for a return...He said it might fix itself over time - SERIOUSLY ....Since SIG customer service is worthless (and I own a but load of SIG pistols and this call might cause me to re-think buying more) what does the SIGForum Brain Trust recommend I replace or try???? And this SIG is clean and greased up like a pig at the fair.....

Thanks in advance for any support and recommendations....



 
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What do you mean "mandatory?" Did Sig send people to your house to take it?
 
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Ryan at SIG customer service said I should shoot the pistol for another 500-1000 rounds and if this failure that is occurring every 7-10 rounds (four different factory brands) then call SIG back to arrange for a return...He said it might fix itself over time - SERIOUSLY - I said and he said yes.....Since SIG customer service is worthless (and I own a but load of SIG pistols) what does the SIGForum Brain Trust recommend I replace or try???? And this SIG is clean and greased up like a pig at the fair.....

Thanks in advance for any support and recommendations....




I would to "Ryan" to go back to flipping hamburgers at McDonald's and get me a real CS rep.
Then tell him that you want your pistol unfukked, ASAP.
 
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What do you mean "mandatory?" Did Sig send people to your house to take it?


Fred - If you want to be a Smart Ass - Please do it on someone else’s thread. If this is the extent of the help you can provide then Thank You....
 
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Have you pulled the striker out and checked to make sure it's intact and there's nothing gumming it up or obstructing the channel? I'm not sure if Sig removes or inspects the striker as part of the upgrade process, but I imagine it's possible that some residue from machining the slide may have found its way in there and be causing some issues. Removing it is simple...takes all of 30 seconds. I do it every other time I clean my gun.
 
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Have you pulled the striker out and checked to make sure it's intact and there's nothing gumming it up or obstructing the channel? I'm not sure if Sig removes or inspects the striker as part of the upgrade process, but I imagine it's possible that some residue from machining the slide may have found its way in there and be causing some issues. Removing it is simple...takes all of 30 seconds. I do it every other time I clean my gun.


92F - No Sir I have not but I will go do this right now...Thank you Sir for providing this suggestion...It could be this simple but being that this pistol just failed me multiple times during a training session - I guess I am having a hard time sorting out where to start...

Thanks again for you help....Mark
 
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Sounds like the FCU may not have been reset when reassembled. Remove the takedown, and put it back in. Raise the slide release up and lock the slide back, then ride it forward. Ensure the chamber is empty. Put a pencil in the barrel, point the pistol up, and press the trigger. The pencil should jump up nearly to the ceiling.

It's possible to reassemble the pistol and not reset the FCU, which will produce either nothing, or what you're seeing.
 
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The only problem I've ever had with my p320 was light strikes. Turned out to be a gummed up striker from some filthy lead reloads. I cleaned it, and it was back to 100% immediately. Sig recommends not getting any solvent or lube in the striker channel, as it can exacerbate this issue...this may have also contributed to my problem.

There are plenty of YouTube videos out there on how to do it, so I won't bore you with that here. Just be careful about the little L-shaped spring for the "firing pin block" (not what it's called, but I don't know the correct terminology). If you bump it and it falls out, it's a PITA to find!
 
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Ryan at SIG customer service said I should shoot the pistol for another 500-1000 rounds and if this failure that is occurring every 7-10 rounds (four different factory brands) then call SIG back to arrange for a return...He said it might fix itself over time - SERIOUSLY - I said and he said yes.....Since SIG customer service is worthless (and I own a but load of SIG pistols) what does the SIGForum Brain Trust recommend I replace or try???? And this SIG is clean and greased up like a pig at the fair.....

Thanks in advance for any support and recommendations....




I would tell "Ryan" to go back to flipping hamburgers at McDonald's and get me a real CS rep.
Then tell him that you want your pistol unfukked, ASAP.
 
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Thanks again guys for the immediate support and feedback. The firing pin and spring unit was dirty and I cannot say that there might not have been some “gunk” in the sleeve where it resides..I gave it a good cleaning and blew it out with canned air, and then provided it a light coating of oil.....Did the same to the firing pin and spring assembly. I host a monthly Steel Challenge match each month and we are having it tomorrow so I will give it another try with four different factory ammo and also my powder puff reloads...Update yall tomorrow evening....Thanks again guys...Mark

Picture of the firing pin and spring assembly...If anything looks wrong here please let me know...I did not disassemble this beyond what you see here....

 
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Try what sns3guppy recommends. Also check the striker channel to ensure it's clean and clear.
If that does not fix the problem, call SIG back and complain until they take it back.




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Try what sns3guppy recommends.
If that does not fix the problem, call SIG back and complain until they take it back.


Will do Sir...Just saw his post...Headed back to the shop now....

Thanks again sns3 and everyone....Mark
 
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Picture of the firing pin and spring assembly...If anything looks wrong here please let me know...I did not disassemble this beyond what you see here....


Looks good to me!
 
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Thanks again guys for the immediate support and feedback. The firing pin and spring unit was dirty and I cannot say that there might not have been some “gunk” in the sleeve where it resides..I gave it a good cleaning and blew it out with canned air, and then provided it a light coating of oil.....Did the same to the firing pin and spring assembly. I host a monthly Steel Challenge match each month and we are having it tomorrow so I will give it another try with four different factory ammo and also my powder puff reloads...Update yall tomorrow evening....Thanks again guys...Mark

Picture of the firing pin and spring assembly...If anything looks wrong here please let me know...I did not disassemble this beyond what you see here....


Pull the striker back out, and flush it, and the striker channel with Gunscrubber, or Brake cleaner, and blow it dry. If there's any oil on the striker, or, in the striker channel, it can cause it to hydrolock. It NEEDS to be dry.
 
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Your striker assembly looks "wet" (and dirty).
It's strange that SIG would have returned your pistol with a wet/dirty striker assembly.
That's a no-no in a striker-fired pistol and could very well be the source of your problems.
Striker assemblies and channels need to be run bone dry.

1) Swab out the striker channel (bore) until it's nice and clean.

2) Thoroughly clean that striker assembly.

What works well with an oily/dirty assembly like that is hot tap water, liquid dish detergent and an old toothbrush.
Scrub it until it's spotless and then blow it dry with canned air.
 
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Sounds like the FCU may not have been reset when reassembled. Remove the takedown, and put it back in. Raise the slide release up and lock the slide back, then ride it forward. Ensure the chamber is empty. Put a pencil in the barrel, point the pistol up, and press the trigger. The pencil should jump up nearly to the ceiling.

It's possible to reassemble the pistol and not reset the FCU, which will produce either nothing, or what you're seeing.


Well this is my problem I think. The pencil only moves up in the barrel when aimed at the ceiling about 1-2 inches..I have not been successful in resetting the FCU yet. I have tried twice and am about to try this process again...not sure what I am doing wrong but the pencil test is reflecting that this could be my problem....Headed back to the shop to try again...Mark
 
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Your striker assembly looks "wet" (and dirty).
It's strange that SIG would have returned your pistol with a wet/dirty striker assembly.
That's a no-no in a striker-fired pistol and could very well be the source of your problems.
Striker assemblies and channels need to be run bone dry.

1) Swab out the striker channel (bore) until it's nice and clean.

2) Thoroughly clean that striker assembly.

What works well with an oily/dirty assembly like that is hot tap water, liquid dish detergent and an old toothbrush.
Scrub it until it's spotless and then blow it dry with canned air.


RH45 and DirectDrive - Thanks guys - After cleaning I did lube the channel and the entire striker assembly. I have since gone back and cleaned both areas with gun scrubber on a Q-Tip and can air dried both the channel and the striker assembly.

My match starts in the morning at 9 a.m. and I will be at the range setting up the steel about 7:30 so I will give this guy another run and let you know what the outcome is....Thanks for re-posting that the striker assembly and channel both need to be dry..I am bad to “Put some grease on everything” and I previously did on these two ....They are now clean and dry.....Thanks Again....Mark
 
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Sounds like the FCU may not have been reset when reassembled. Remove the takedown, and put it back in. Raise the slide release up and lock the slide back, then ride it forward. Ensure the chamber is empty. Put a pencil in the barrel, point the pistol up, and press the trigger. The pencil should jump up nearly to the ceiling.

It's possible to reassemble the pistol and not reset the FCU, which will produce either nothing, or what you're seeing.


Well this is my problem I think. The pencil only moves up in the barrel when aimed at the ceiling about 1-2 inches..I have not been successful in resetting the FCU yet. I have tried twice and am about to try this process again...not sure what I am doing wrong but the pencil test is reflecting that this could be my problem....Headed back to the shop to try again...Mark


I've found that a pencil with a soft rubber eraser will sometimes not rebound any more than a couple of inches, even when the striker is functioning properly (because the eraser absorbs the impact). A hard plastic pen (like a cheap bic), or a pencil with a hard eraser should fly out of the barrel, though.
 
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