I see. I hadn't thought about it, but I suppose most holster discharged P320 models had a light mounted. I doubt the Army is equipping all their models with lights, as lights are mainly a Police requirement, and lights were not nearly so present until Gen 3 models. Even then, pistol-lights had such poor output, up until relatively recently, they were barely worth the weight even in the late 90s.

While it likely wouldn't have eliminated this issue, I would concede the point if the majority of these accidents were in light mounted holsters. I missed it if it was already noted.

Yes boss taking it back. lol

The US Air Force Global Strike Command has paused all use of M18 handgun (Sig P320) after an airman fatality occurred at Warren AFB.




Details of the incident itself aren't yet available, other than than an unidentified Security Forces airman died, and based on the action taken by the commander it presumably involved the M18.

https://www.airandspaceforces....man-death-fe-warren/

Hoo boy

From USAF channels: the security forces airmen took off his SafariLand holstered weapon (weapon was holstered entire time) and placed it on a desk. It discharged and killed him. The holster is designed for this feature. Very sad.

Additional context: he removed the holster body from the backer via the QLS forks and sat it on the desk, where it discharged into his chest. As reported, I don’t see how something snagged in the trigger guard suddenly only becomes a problem once he goes through all of that and sets it down on a stable surface away from his body.

Air Force Security Forces guys I’m seeing discuss it elsewhere say they’re trained to carry with a round chambered and the safety off while holstered.

Damn. That sucks. And I agree...I don't see how a foreign object gets snagged in the holster and causes it to go off after you've unhooked the QLS forks and placed it on the desk.

Anybody got links to the sources/details on this one?

Query. Their policy is to buy a handgun with a manual safety and then when holstered they don’t use the safety? And before the M9 stuff comes up, having a safety on a double action gun is dubious at best and bears little relevance to a 320. So my question would be if they don’t use it while holstered which is how is will be nearly all the time, when if ever do they use it?

Holstered gun safety off, draw the gun and apply the safety? Obviously not but I don’t understand that thought process WHATSOEVER. If that is truly their policy then basically they should say we treat the MS like it doesn’t exist and we don’t use it.

Please don’t say they use it for administrative purposes. Ugh.

Details on this one would be telling. This on the surface appears to be the “it just went off” sitting on a desk, in a holster. I must say I suspect we aren’t getting all the facts yet on this one. Or Sigs literally will just go off sitting in your safe. I hope they test the shit out of this gun. If so it’s a shame Glock isn’t publically traded because this is the way.

I wonder if USAF got rid of all their Model 15s.

Is this the first fatality from a P320? Now of course details are thin at this point and for all we actually know he was twirling the gun like Wyatt Earp (not insinuating he was) but assuming it was holstered and just tossed on a table wow.

So sad for dude and his family.

I am and have always been fairly caliber and platform agnostic but have always preferred hammer fired DA/SA and I gotta tell you this whole 320 thing hasn’t exactly shaken my preference for those.

and not a peep from Sig. Consumers should demand a Factory buy back.

Awful event for him, his colleagues, friends and family.
Godspeed, airman.

So reading that memorandum do they not have some stock of old M9s/holsters still? I mean it hasn’t been out of service for that long and I’d imagine a great deal of these folks were trained up on it or did they liquidate the lot of them? Seems silly to provide an M4 carbine for a pistol task.

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Is this the first fatality from a P320? Now of course details are thin at this point and for all we actually know he was twirling the gun like Wyatt Earp (not insinuating he was) but assuming it was holstered and just tossed on a table wow.

So sad for dude and his family.

I am and have always been fairly caliber and platform agnostic but have always preferred hammer fired DA/SA and I gotta tell you this whole 320 thing hasn’t exactly shaken my preference for those.

Here is a recent article from July 16, 2025.

https://www.legalreader.com/ju...suit-to-state-court/

"A federal judge ruled the wrongful death case must return to state court.

A judge in Pennsylvania has ruled that a lawsuit filed by a widow against a major firearms company can go forward in state court. The case involves the death of her husband, who died from a gunshot wound caused by a holstered Sig Sauer pistol. The firearm, a P320 model, allegedly discharged on its own while still inside the holster. The court decision comes after arguments over whether the case belonged in state or federal court. The judge determined the matter should be handled at the local level where it began.

The woman behind the lawsuit, Mariya Gomelskaya, lost her husband, Roman Neshin, in October 2024. He was 41 years old at the time. According to court documents, he was found with a single gunshot wound to the groin and fragments of holster plastic inside his clothing. The shot came from his own Sig Sauer P320, which was holstered at the time. Her legal team argues the gun fired due to faulty parts and the lack of a basic safety feature that might have prevented it from going off unexpectedly.

Sig Sauer tried to move the case to federal court, arguing that they should not be sued alongside a local Pennsylvania gun dealer named Spot4Guns. They claimed this dealer only played a minor role in the transaction and was named just to keep the case in state court. But the judge said weighing that argument would mean stepping into the legal dispute before it’s time. Because of that, she ruled that the case should stay in the Court of Common Pleas in Philadelphia, where it was first filed."

Yes another unconfirmed report says that "an airman set his tactical belt down and the holstered M18 discharged hitting another airman" (sorry, no link as this has already been deleted, so make of it what you will).

As to the manual safety, what if it had been engaged? Since that only secures the trigger bar, this could be evidence of a true uncommanded discharge.

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So reading that memorandum do they not have some stock of old M9s/holsters still? I mean it hasn’t been out of service for that long and I’d imagine a great deal of these folks were trained up on it or did they liquidate the lot of them? Seems silly to provide an M4 carbine for a pistol task.

I wonder how the local citizenry would react if we dispensed with the handguns and just started getting out of the car on calls with the M400s...

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and not a peep from Sig. Consumers should demand a Factory buy back.

There won’t be a company left to do the buying back once they lose all their big contracts. Regardless of the underlying mechanics, they are cooked.

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I wonder how the local citizenry would react if we dispensed with the handguns and just started getting out of the car on calls with the M400s...

Ha local citizenry??? You and your fellow cops would hate that after one detail/shift.

Break out the M9’s .