This is only going to start accelerating, this is a police department here in PA:

Bloomsburg police switching from Sig Sauers back to Glocks due to safety concerns

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Originally posted by PASig:
This is only going to start accelerating, this is a police department here in PA

Same with Houston P.D. after one of it's officers filed a $10 million lawsuit.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/art...sauer-225000162.html
https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-...-two-months-replace/

The Wyoming Gun Project video posted above is funny, but it's clear that his video in which he staged the trigger of a P320 and then manipulated the slide to get the striker to release, is misleading, as indicated by the video posted by Mars_Attacks on page 57 of this thread, and which I am re-posting below.

The WGP video, in terms of the questions surrounding P320 UDs, proves nothing, except that this behavior is inherent in at least some striker-fired pistol designs.

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Originally posted by Sgt 127:

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Originally posted by Rusty_SWO:

The patent corrects what it describes as "an incomplete and unsafe design" by providing a manual safety with a sear block.

That’s very interesting. He filed for that patent over a year ago. He worked at Sig 2011-2016 it appears.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vMQpBXfnpdI

1) I can't help but wonder if there's a back-story here.
Typically, if you work for a company and "invent" something, then that something is the property of the company you're working for.
Was this design developed by an employee while working for the company ?

2) I would like to see this design analyzed/tested by qualified P320 experts.

3) Just who was it that released this "patent information" ?

I'm not jumping on this bandwagon until some questions are answered.

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Originally posted by kkina:
[FLASH_VIDEO]<iframe frameborder="0" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ihm74aIwmrA?si=AvH00UcB6xmnYXk-" title="YouTube video player" width="560"></iframe>[/FLASH_VIDEO]

Some Youtubers
How can people take them seriously ?

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US Marshal Service has now dropped the P320 as an authorized duty weapon. I’m not sure if they were ever issued and if so how recently that was, or if they were just authorized for use as a personally owned firearm. Cue Para’s dominoes…

USMS authorizes personally owned weapons. P320 no longer authorized in that capacity. I’ve been told that the order extends to TFOs as well.

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Originally posted by Lt CHEG:
US Marshal Service has now dropped the P320 as an authorized duty weapon. I’m not sure if they were ever issued and if so how recently that was, or if they were just authorized for use as a personally owned firearm. Cue Para’s dominoes…

Source? Heard it from a friend, who heard it from a friend? Yes, I tried google, but it’s not my friend.

Decide for yourself if this is true.

"U.S. Marshals Ban Sig P320 - Urgent Whistleblower Report"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo4k7ZlZIHE

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Originally posted by DirectDrive:
1) I can't help but wonder if there's a back-story here.
Typically, if you work for a company and "invent" something, then that something is the property of the company you're working for.
Was this design developed by an employee while working for the company ?

2) I would like to see this design analyzed/tested by qualified P320 experts.

3) Just who was it that released this "patent information" ?

I'm not jumping on this bandwagon until some questions are answered.

Apparently, the provisional patent was filed in 2023:

Suffield, CT - Angled Spade Technologies, LLC (AST) today issued a public statement regarding U.S. Patent Application US20250164203A1, which details an innovative safety enhancement for the Sig Sauer® P320® platform. The patent, assigned to Angled Spade Technologies, reflects a critical advancement in firearm safety engineering and further underscores AST’s commitment to responsible innovation within the firearms industry.

The concept originated during a collaborative project involving engineer Brian McDonald, who is listed as the inventor. While Mr. McDonald formerly held a position at Sig Sauer®, he has not been employed by the company for several years and has recently operated independently as a consultant across multiple organizations. The project in question was not affiliated with, nor did it include input from, Sig Sauer® or any of its affiliates.

“This patent application represents AST’s solution to further enhance the safety of the P320® platform,” said Joe Salvador, Partner and Engineer at Angled Spade Technologies. “Our solution physically blocks the sear’s movement when the manual safety is engaged. something that, to date, has not been a feature of the P320® and its variants.”

In 2023, shortly after filing the provisional patent, Angled Spade Technologies extended a professional courtesy to Sig Sauer® by offering them the first right of refusal on the safety-enhancing design. Sig Sauer® declined to engage at that time. AST then proceeded with the full patent process, and the applications publication is a milestone on that path.

AST's design allows for additional safety measures to be incorporated into the pistol without compromising the platform's visual profile, feel, or function. The mechanism is intended to add a redundant safety feature that ensures the firearm cannot discharge while the manual safety is engaged.

Angled Spade Technologies specializes in forward-thinking R&D for firearm platforms, emphasizing safety, performance, and user confidence. The P320® upgrade is just one of several projects in development that reflect AST’s passion for innovation without compromise.

For more information on this patent or AST’s other products, visit www.angledspade.com or contact info@angledspade.com.



Angled Spade Technologies Issues Clarifying Statement on P320® Fire Control Safety Patent

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Originally posted by trapper189:


In 2023, shortly after filing the provisional patent, Angled Spade Technologies extended a professional courtesy to Sig Sauer® by offering them the first right of refusal on the safety-enhancing design. Sig Sauer® declined to engage at that time. AST then proceeded with the full patent process, and the applications publication is a milestone on that path.

I’m pretty sure I know why Sig declined. Because adding that feature requires the safety to be engaged. Negating the fact that it’s a simple striker fired, no safety, no decocker gun designed to compete with the Glock.

If carrying, with the thumb safety engaged for the gun to be safe, Sig has created a striker fired 1911.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Source? Heard it from a friend, who heard it from a friend? Yes, I tried google, but it’s not my friend.

Here is a "screenshot" I saw on another site-

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Originally posted by Jupiter:
Decide for yourself if this is true.

"U.S. Marshals Ban Sig P320 - Urgent Whistleblower Report"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo4k7ZlZIHE

"If you've ever been legitimately excited to hear"...

Airman arrested for death that prompted Air Force-wide safety review of Sig M18

“An individual has now been arrested on suspicion of making a false official statement, obstruction of justice, and involuntary manslaughter,” an Air Force spokesperson said.

Jeff Schogol
Aug 8, 2025 3:03 PM EDT

An airman has been arrested in connection with the shooting death of Airman Brayden Lovan, 21, last month, which prompted the Air Force to curtail the use of M18 pistols, according to the service.

“Out of an abundance of caution and based on initial reporting, Air Force authorities ordered various safety precautions involving the M18 after this tragic event,” an Air Force spokesperson said in a statement “ Since then, the investigation has progressed and an individual has now been arrested on suspicion of making a false official statement, obstruction of justice, and involuntary manslaughter...”

Complete article:

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-force-m18-arrest/

^^ Well THAT'S not good news!

That whole article just knocked my tinfoil helmet off kilter!

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:

"If you've ever been legitimately excited to hear"...

Those folks who have invested a lot of time and money might not share his enthusiasm.

I just saw a news article stating that another Air Force Airman has been arrested for the shooting and killing of another Airman that was originally blamed on a Sig UD. I don't know anything about this news source but a quick search seemed to indicate it was legit.

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-force-m18-arrest

^I just saw that article, too. About 3 posts above yours.

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Originally posted by Jupiter:

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:

"If you've ever been legitimately excited to hear"...

Those folks who have invested a lot of time and money might not share his enthusiasm.

His enthusiasm seems to be focused on getting people to 'Like & Subscribe' (and Monetize!) his YouTube channel...A recurring and persistent theme during this debacle!