This is the first pistol that’s really interested me in a few years, I’ll be anxious to see one in the wild.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Trigger reach appears long for a SAO pistol.

Take a look at the .22 Beretta 87 Target.
https://www.safesidetactical.c...lr-weaver-rail-30960

I have an 87T and love it. Many folks don’t like the 87T’s trigger break but I get good results with it. And it eats all ammo without a hiccup.

BTW: The trigger reach of my 87T SAO is much less when its hammer is cocked. Maybe that’s the case for the 92XI SAO as well. Beretta makes some fine pistols.

I’m curious why one would want a decocker on a single action only pistol.

Is it so it can be carried with hammer down and then it’s necessary to thumb-cock the pistol before firing (or carrying with an empty chamber and manually cycling the slide to chamber a round and cock the hammer)? I thought the gun prophets had long ago decreed that SAO pistols were supposed to be carried cocked and more or less “locked.” What am I missing?

I don't think he does. I think he wants a 92G Centurion but with the decocker being frame mounted. That is what I think he wants. I could be talked into that as well.

This thing is beautiful and I have a Beretta addiction. Not an SAO guy typically though. I have to say between this and the DWX I think I would wait for the RDO version of the DWX. This thing screams for a red dot but having put a red dot on a 92 before I have to say I was underwhelmed, this coming from a 92 lover.

Dots and 92's are a tough love scenario. They are so fucking ugly and they are high as shit. Me no like. They also extend over the edge of the slide due to the curvy nature of a 92. I just don't think they are the best dot candidates. Tried it once and for now with the current options I won't ever do it again.

Beautiful gun though and I won't say I wouldn't ever buy it. 'Cause I probably would.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
I’m curious why one would want a decocker on a single action only pistol.

(or carrying with an empty chamber and manually cycling the slide to chamber a round and cock the hammer)?

Yes.

Its for "Israeli Carry."

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Dots and 92's are a tough love scenario. They are so fucking ugly and they are high as shit. Me no like. They also extend over the edge of the slide due to the curvy nature of a 92. I just don't think they are the best dot candidates. Tried it once and for now with the current options I won't ever do it again.

Agreed. Dots on a 92 are FUGLY & they don't blend well. That being said, they work very well. It's not pretty to look at on my compact but it damn sure works great.

The Italian sexy lady in a new dress. I never grow tired of those lines. One of the most beautiful pistols in the world extant. Normally I'd be holding my nose for just another tweak, but not for that beauty. Gorgeous.

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Originally posted by wrightd:
The Italian sexy lady in a new dress. I never grow tired of those lines. One of the most beautiful pistols in the world extant. Normally I'd be holding my nose for just another tweak, but not for that beauty. Gorgeous.

I have to agree. With target sights it would be a SIG P226 X5 competitor. Those Italians… sigh.

I'm the one who posted this on BF. Let's just say that this has been a LONG time coming. Chatted in person with the team responsible. I think it's a home run, albeit not perfect for what I'd want. Still, I'll buy one.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Trigger reach appears long for a SAO pistol.

They didn't redesign the hammer bar it appears...if an LTT version
will still release the sear, it was shorten the pull and reset considerably.

PTG

So just to clarify, that frame mounted lever is a 1911 style safety right?
UP - cocked and locked
Down - safety off
On the HK's, there is a third option, Down/Down that de-cocks. I played with that USP for a while and just could not get used to it so I passed on it.

Correct, cocked and locked...no decocker.

Honestly, the newer Berettas don't really do it for me, especially a Vertec frame.

But... I have always found the few frame mounted safety models they've made to be really attractive, so this is starting to grow on me.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
Honestly, the newer Berettas don't really do it for me, especially a Vertec frame.

But... I have always found the few frame mounted safety models they've made to be really attractive, so this is starting to grow on me.

Get a G10 wraparound grip from LOK Grips. It's thinner and grippier than what Beretta puts in the box.

Vertec is awesome. Thinner, shorter reach and if you don’t like that just put the grips back on and instant hump. Best of both worlds.

Keep forgetting that's an option. Dammit. First a P30 and then this lol.

The site has been put back up:

https://www.beretta.com/en-us/92xi-sao/

MSRP $949. There's also a Launch Edition for $1199 but the only differences I can find are wood grips and stainless cerakote.

https://www.beretta.com/en-us/...-sao-launch-edition/

Maybe it's just me, but this gun sure makes my AXG look good. Between this and the BOX, I may not be buying Berettas for a while.

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Originally posted by DanH:
The site has been put back up:

https://www.beretta.com/en-us/92xi-sao/
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4.7” barrel. I thought it looked longer than 4”!

4.7" is flush on full size frams (normal 92 is 4.9" long barrel).

As soon as I saw the new frame-decocker I had to have one. I am perfectly happy with it being SAO as well. I elected to buy the "Launch Edition" with the steel frame, wood grips and all-silveryish color. Since I live in a freer state I got the 18-rd magazine. It is also significantly "de-horned," the only sharp points being front and rear sights and the back edges of the magazine pad.
I really like this gun.
I have a lot of experience with 92-model Berettas, all with the standard frame and the decocker mechanism.
The are very easy to shoot well and reload. I trained a lot with them so they fall right in place in my hand with the sights on target.
Same is true for this Xi. It's steel Vertec frame is thinner than the other 92's. I saw a comment about the trigger reach looking a little long, but the Vertec frame is thinner and with the trigger back the reach is actually less.
When cocked, The trigger has about a 3/8" takeup before reaching the stop. A finger twitch then fires the gun.
Pulling the slide to the rear is quite a bit harder than the other models. I think it is a good thing it has cocking cuts fore and aft. I use them. I can handle it OK, it was just a surprise. For nearly all the time I carried them for duty, we used +P and frequently +P+ ammo. Perhaps Beretta put in a stronger spring for this.
As new, unfired, takedown is tough. I suspect a couple hundred rounds more and it will loosen up.
Accuracy with Fiocchi 115-gr ammo is as tight as you or I can hold the pistol. Imma Ol' Guye so it takes some work to get tight groups off-hand. Rapid fire, moving from target to target is not detectably different from the other 92's. It tosses the shells quite a ways, possible due to the stronger recoil spring.
I don't have a satisfactory holster for it, yet. The rail under the front of the slide complicates choices. I have never needed one, but there is no choice in the purchase. One thing I probably will use is the mounts on top of the slide for an optical sight. I will also seek a threaded barrel for my Griffin suppressor.
I really really really like the ambi safety. (Note: it is not a decocker.) I'm not truly ambidextrous but I work to be proficient with my "off hand". One kinda off thing about it is that with the hammer down, it can still be engaged. No idea why. I have no problems carrying cocked-and-locked.
I have put only 2 magazines of 18-rds each through it, so, of course, I'll need to do a lot more evaluation.