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Anyone here have experience with both of these that they'd like to share? I've had a bit of decision paralysis for going on at least a year trying to decide between these 2 pistols. It seems the internet's opinions on how these compare are all over the place. Tons of info out there stating how much better the XC is than the P, but then again it's also not hard to find people that think the XC isn't worth the premium over the P. I've been hoping to try at least one of these guns in person but it just hasn't worked out and I'm running out of patience so curious what sigforum has to say about them before I make my final decision. This will be mostly for range at first, but hopefully will take up a role as an HD gun as well. | ||
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I've had both. My P was the original 4.15" from 2019. So I can't compare it to the current 4.4" P. The XC is great if you do target shooting or competitions. I wouldn't use it for a carry gun. That trigger is just sooooo sweet. I didn't like carrying the P either and got a C2 for carry. Then I got the 2024 C (4") with full size (17rd) grip as my new carry gun. It's now 2025, I have sold all my Staccatos. I just can't get used to carrying them when my P365 guns are so much slimmer and easier to carry. I'm looking at the new HD P4 as a possible carry gun because it uses the same mags as my duty gun. But I am waiting for them to release a flat trigger version which is a must for me these days with 1911s/2011s. Not minority enough! | |||
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I own the P and put an Atlas grip module on it because the grip safety is stupid and you will miss hitting it right sometimes. I recently got the HD 4.5 and shooting it yesterday revealed how dicked the trigger is on it as far as a pinching bitch. The XC is the ultimate Staccato but again a 120 year old design grip safety? AND remember, comps are LOUD. If it's a range toy only go XC, if not, I vote P. ________,_____________________________ Guns don't kill people - Alec Baldwin kills people. He's never been a straight shooter. | |||
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I own both and have a fair amount of time on them. The XC is a fun gun, but it's probably not worth it if you're paying full price. I say that because at $4300, you're getting into the territory of some of the higher end guns like MPA, Atlas, etc. You're missing out on a metal grip, better fitting, more options, etc. that come with the $4-$6k guns. But it is a blast to shoot. The other downside on the XC is that it does do much of the work for you that it can kind of ruin other guns for you. I would also argue that you can get to shooting it complacently and not really wrong out its full performance. The only thing I really recommend on an XC is going to a 9 or 10 pound recoil spring from the cartoonishly light 7 pound factory spring. I know somebody mentioned the trigger. If you want a "duty" trigger, you can order it that way. The only real difference between the 2 lb and 4 lb triggers is in the configuration of the sear spring. The P is the workhorse of the lineup. I think it's appropriately priced for what it is. If you want more XC-like performance there are aftermarket comps and porting options. I have Monsoon Tactical's Grandmaster Genghis Komp (a combination of a large port at the end of the barrel and three inline ports) on my C2 and it really shoots amazing. With either gun, magazines are the weak link. The current 2011 mags are the best they've ever been. The ones Staccato sells work well. Magazines are expensive. | |||
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I currently own both the P and the XC, along with models from Atlas, MPA, Nighthawk, and Cabot. For fun target or competition shooting, the XC is in a different league than the P thus the significantly higher price. The XC offers a lot of performance for the money compared to other high-end brands. | |||
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I have a P and Heritage P (4.15) along with a C full size grip. Absolutely love them all but my first gun was the P. I've shot comps with it and range gun most of the time, it's just a fabulous shooter, soft and very accurate; makes me look like a pro. Because of how I feel shooting it I really haven't seen the need for an XC, but don't get me wrong I lust and want an XC but it's not in the cards for me. | |||
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I have some Staccato experience with a variety of their models from the original 2019 P to some of the current offerings. I’ll say that the OG 2019 P is still my favorite and is the one I should have bought back before they discontinued it. I ended up with a C2 and it’s great, but the P had better pretty much everything except the newer mags are superior to the first gen ones. The newer P (that came out when they basically split the line into a longer P and shortened C2) is a great range and competition gun though does not conceal as well as the C2. Now the CS and C models are even better at concealed carrying. I don’t like the feel of the new C/CS as much as I thought I would though so I am sticking with my C2. Now the XC is the ultimate range toy and I have had the pleasure of shooting one a few times when Staccato does an annual range day at a local shop/range. It of course shoots very well as one would expect, really flat and fast, though it was over double the cost that the C2 was when I bought mine so I haven’t upgraded yet. I have not shot a XL though it’s kinda in between the P and the XC IMHO. I feel it more closely resembles the old original Combat Master in terms of feel and balance and I think a decent amount of guys compete with it. I almost bought one that had a gold titanium nitrided island barrel that was a beautiful example, but it was still a little pricey at over $3500 so I passed. The new P4 and P4.5 series is not intriguing at all to me though I have yet to hold one so perhaps that will change in the future. The nice thing about Staccato’s are that you know you’re getting a quality gun and if you don’t like it, you can recap most of your money from it. The customer service is absolutely outstanding, or at least it was a few years ago. If I was a LEO I’m not sure I would trust it for duty carry, but then again mine has been 100% reliable and I know a lot of departments allow them. One of our local sheriff deputies actually carries a XC and he swears by it. | |||
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Appreciate the replies and input. I'm not very keen on the idea of "range only guns" and because of that had initially ruled out the XC and was certain that the P would satisfy my wants at the range while still offer up the reliability to function as a defense pistol if ever needed. The more I researched I started noticing that some folks were actually carrying the XC including law enforcement on duty which is what brought me back around to considering the XC again. Seems that despite the comp, with a little heavier recoil spring, most XCs are extremely reliable so just maybe it is a viable option for what I'm looking for.
If I could swing an Atlas for close to what an XC runs, believe me that'd be the route I'd go however unless I'm missing something it appears the cheapest I'm going to get into any model Atlas is about $5,800 which is quite similar to the different between a P and XC.
Weirdly (maybe?) this is actually one of my biggest concerns regarding the XC, that it'll be such a departure from what I'm used to that it'll not only keep me from wanting to shoot other pistols, but even potentially make me complacent and negatively affect my shooting with other platforms. Of course training can negate that, however I'll freely admit that for years it seems I'm hot and cold with how often I get out and shoot. I'll go heavy for months and then for one reason or another end up taking months off. Because of that I recognized years ago that if I stuck to one platform it was easier to maintain my skill level and it just so happened that Glock was the platform I chose. Largely because Glock make sense on paper. The reality is, that while I'm proficient with Glocks because they are what I shoot almost exclusively, I'm reminded when I shoot one of my 2 remaining full size pistols that aren't Glock (P226 and TRP) that I do have to try harder with the Glock platform. 1911's have always felt second nature to me which is why I'm pursuing the Staccato/2011 platform to dip my toes into a new platform to potentially focus on moving forward. I'm almost certain that I'd enjoy the P, but I'm concerned I'll always "what if" the XC. I do have one more question for those that have had both. How have you found the fit between your P and XC? That seems like another aspect that the internet seems to differ on with some saying they're fit similarly, while other's seem to indicate that the XC is fit to a higher standard than the P. | |||
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When I had my XC/DVC-P, the fit and finish seemed to be the same. If you want to cheat a little bit, you can also go this route through Dawson Precision: https://dawsonprecision.com/st...9mm-limited-edition/ | |||
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I hear ya about the XC! I have a P and very happy with it. Runs awesome and has been flawless. From comps to carry, it has done it all for me. Yes, I want an XC but I've held out just because my P is that good. IMO the fit and finish of the P vs XC are the same, made in same shop with same internals (for the most part). Many options out there and I may grab an XC at some point in my life but so many other wants that it will be on hold a long time. Doubt you can go wrong with a P IMO.
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I think that probably comes from the way the comp and front sight block are integrated. I do not think the overall fit and finish are any different between the guns other than the XC having the very precisely fit comp. | |||
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