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Without having previously given it much thought, I would assume so, but perhaps lower demands would have kept things from becoming so bad elsewhere.

Anyone know for sure? How about our Canadian or other country members—what say you?




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If it wasn’t, I’m sure we’d be seeing a bunch of foreign ammo flooding the US market like in 2010.

Granted, I’m not on an ammo binge like back then, but I don’t see it this time.




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I've seen primers on Canadian websites and I'm close to the border but the bridge is closed. I don't know if I'd be allowed to bring them across but when the bridge opens I'll be finding out.
 
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I have a friend overseas that works for RUAG - the shortages are almost as significant there but it's not really an apples-apples comparison given the restrictions on ammo purchases/possession in many foreign nations.
 
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Maybe there is a difference. My Ammo supplier mainly gets PMC Ammo from South Korea.

Been waiting for factory delivery from Speer sense July. Last phone call a few days ago advised “the build may start toward the the end of March” .


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No shortage and no changes in price in Sweden.

Prices in Sweden are generally higher though so a brick of 22lr is about 40 dollar US regardless of the shortage you are experiencing.
 
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No shortage and no changes in price in Sweden.


Thanks. What brands of 22LR do you generally have there?




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Thanks. What brands of 22LR do you generally have there?

I would guess we pretty much have the same brands here as you do in the states. I mostly buy CCI SV since I find it to be most consistent considering it's price point. I checked just now and I can pick up a case of it for the equivalent of 370 dollars.
 
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I checked just now and I can pick up a case of it for the equivalent of 370 dollars.


Well, considering I recently saw that someone paid $40 for a brick of Thunderbolt, I can imagine many people here would be envious of that ammunition at that price. Smile




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I checked just now and I can pick up a case of it for the equivalent of 370 dollars.


Well, considering I recently saw that someone paid $40 for a brick of Thunderbolt, I can imagine many people here would be envious of that ammunition at that price. Smile


Seems about right Smile

I bought a case of thunderbolts once, fired 200 of them through a Ruger 10/22 and sold the rest after I spent the better part of an evening trying to get all the lead out of that bore, worst junk I've ever shot.
 
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I've seen primers on Canadian websites and I'm close to the border but the bridge is closed. I don't know if I'd be allowed to bring them across but when the bridge opens I'll be finding out.


Yep, I'm in MI and have seen primers are just widely available in Canada at normal prices. Not sure about ammo, but right now I could make do with just the primers that are unobtainium in the US.
 
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I have seen some posts elsewhere from Canadian shooters and supply there does seem better, but bear in mind the demand is no where near what it is in the states either. Some have remarked they see supplies dwindling there too.
It will eventually affect everyone. Much like an infectious disease which doesn’t spread as fast in some areas as opposed to others but eventually everyone is exposed - sound familiar ?
 
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We know that ammunition and components are being produced as fast as factories here can, but I was wondering if contractual obligations to foreign vendors coupled with the much lower demand (and perhaps less sense of urgency) outside the country might have prevented the same sorts of shortages elsewhere.

It’s interesting to learn what’s actually going on, and I’m surprised that we haven’t seen more responses from our foreign members. Perhaps I should have posted the question in the Lounge; this section doesn’t get nearly as much traffic.




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I checked just now and I can pick up a case of it for the equivalent of 370 dollars.


Well, considering I recently saw that someone paid $40 for a brick of Thunderbolt, I can imagine many people here would be envious of that ammunition at that price. Smile


Seems about right Smile

I bought a case of thunderbolts once, fired 200 of them through a Ruger 10/22 and sold the rest after I spent the better part of an evening trying to get all the lead out of that bore, worst junk I've ever shot.


I see Thunderbolt going higher than that on Gunbroker!!! I have an old British SMLE .22 trainer that absolutely loves Thunderbolt. It is the only .22 I have shot that actually did anything half way good w/ that ammo.
 
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No shortage and no changes in price in Sweden.
We had a guy from Finland at our range several weeks ago. He said the same thing.


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It hasn't been too bad abroad, so we've been working hard to try to negotiate an options contract with a supplier for the SIGforum 9mm Ammunition Group Buy to make 100,000 rounds available to members. Hopefully it'll go quick and we can get a second run going.
 
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Originally posted by sigfreund:
Without having previously given it much thought, I would assume so, but perhaps lower demands would have kept things from becoming so bad elsewhere.

Anyone know for sure? How about our Canadian or other country members—what say you?



Since the ammunition shortage was caused by the political climate in this country, you would think other countries would not be drastically affected.

I know we get ammunition from other countries. You would think countries that like to make money would jump on the bandwagon. It's been over a year now and the rest of the world can't supply the U.S. market with enough ammunition?
It has to make you wonder what else is in play here.


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