I am pocket carrying my P365, with Federal HST, 147+P grain ammo and wanted to lighten it up, so I bought a box of Liberty Civil Defense ammo, to see how it would do for function and accuracy. It's expensive at about $1.20 a round, so I only did a five shot group at 7 yards. Not only did all 5 feed and fire just fine, but shot into a group, not much bigger than an inch. They use a very high speed, 50 grain +P bullet, that has all good reviews and does very well in gelatin tests. The gun is also over 3 ounces lighter, than with 13 rounds of 147 grain ammo. This will probably be my new carry ammo.

Five shots was enough to validate it as your new carry ammunition?

I'd stick with HST's if it were me. Check out the tests performed in the link on the Liberty 50g stuff. Not a very good round for penetration.
https://www.luckygunner.com/la...mmo-ballistic-tests/

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
Five shots was enough to validate it as your new carry ammunition?

I'll run a couple of boxes through it, before I pass final judgement, but it'll probably bankrupt me.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
I'd stick with HST's if it were me. Check out the tests performed in the link on the Liberty 50g stuff. Not a very good round for penetration.
https://www.luckygunner.com/la...mmo-ballistic-tests/

WOW! Not good. Might have to re-think this whole thing.

I use HST 147gr standard pressure in mine. I know it's reliable. Not sure why anyone would want to use +p in such a little pistol. No sense it adding additional pressures/wear to it. Yes I know SIG says it's rated for +p.

Barnes 115gr +P TAC-XPD is what my wife and I carry in both of our P365’s and I am a HST guy in my home defense pistols.....

Why - Cycles perfectly (140 rds total through our two P365’s) as well as over 500 additional rds total of WWB FMJ and HST’s. Our P365’s like the Barnes round and the recoil is actually a little less than the 124gr +P HST and about the same as the 147gr HST standard velocity....

Also - As others have stated above check out the Luckygunner link for more details related to the Barnes round as well as the HST rounds....The Barnes just works well for us in this pistol...

If you decide to go with HST ammo check out the prices at Bone Frog Gun Club. They have some of the best prices on HST on the internet...Mark

Personally, I would not trust a carry ammo after firing only 5 rounds.

I've settled on the Hornady 115gr XTP for carry in my P365. I shot about 10 types of hollow points for groups, settled on the XTP, then fired 250 of them over 3 range trips with zero issues.

While not lighter, the 150gr HSTs specifically for the micro pistols look like the best way to go, ( for performance. )

I run 124gr HST's in my carry. I won't trust it until I put a couple hundred problem free rounds through. Preferably 400-500 with a new pistol. That after putting some FMJ through first.

I settled on HST 124 grain std pressure a while back. It feeds and cycles reliably in every gun I own, regardless of make, model or barrel length.

Goes in my 365, Shield, Nano or 938. My goto in my 320c, MP 9, MP M2.0 Compact and all them others.

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Originally posted by Redford1970:
I settled on HST 124 grain std pressure a while back. It feeds and cycles reliably in every gun I own, regardless of make, model or barrel length.

Goes in my 365, Shield, Nano or 938. My goto in my 320c, MP 9, MP M2.0 Compact and all them others.

As did I & have never "looked back".

I would rather carry 1 less round of HST to keep the weight the same rather than trust my life on Liberty 50 grain bullets.

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Originally posted by agksimon:

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
Five shots was enough to validate it as your new carry ammunition?

I'll run a couple of boxes through it, before I pass final judgement, but it'll probably bankrupt me.

If that's going to bankrupt you, hand over your wallet and avoid having to shoot some schlub.