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Need a very quite 22 not using a suppressor
March 16, 2024, 09:44 PM
abnmacvNeed a very quite 22 not using a suppressor
Have a major squirrel problem here in suburbia setting. Houses are close, we do have bamboo that blocks out some of the neighbors. Squirrels drive my terrier nuts and are so bold they come up on our 2nd story deck and hassle the dog inside at t he glass door. Used Have-a-heart trap and just drove away the 26th squirrel and relocated it 4 miles away. Feel like I need a new approach. Still have my bolt action 22lr I got at age 12. Want a quiet round. CCI makes a 22 they say is 75% quiter than a regular 22lr. Wonder about a 22cb-cap if they still make them. Anyone use those rounds and if so where do you buy them?
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March 17, 2024, 04:47 AM
arfmelAguila Super Colibri is about the quietest I know of for rifle use. The regular Colibri will stick in many rifle length barrels.
They are both CB type loads in long cases.
Any of the specialty type .22 ammo can be hard to find. Ammoseek can be useful in finding it online.
March 17, 2024, 07:25 AM
dking271Invest the money into a nice quiet airgun in your choice of caliber. A quick trip to your local sporting goods store or even Walmart will yield the tool you are seeking for far less than you’d expect. Accuracy can be phenomenal and they carry terminal velocity at suburbia distances.
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March 17, 2024, 07:36 AM
SIGfourme22CB is primer only--haven't seen any on the shelf. Low velocity 22LR --AKA suppressor type 22 LR is more available.
CCI Quiet 22 is 780 fps. Also very accurate--wait for squirrel to be upright for a center of mass shot. No over penetration at 30-40ft.
March 17, 2024, 09:19 AM
Jim WatsonSuburbia? Where will a bullet land that misses or shoots through a rodent?
March 17, 2024, 10:08 AM
sigfreundAnything that will humanely kill a squirrel will pass through, so as with any shooting it’s essential to be aware of what’s beyond the target.
For that specific purpose, another vote for an airgun. There are many Internet videos of effectively using that method on squirrels.
And although I don’t know your situation, there can be significantly less legal liability if one is discovered using an airgun rather than any firearm in an urban setting.
I do have a couple of boxes of CCI “Quiet” ammunition, but haven’t gotten around to trying it yet. I am interested in knowing not only how loud it is, but also the point of impact. I have tried the Aquila Colibri and although it’s very quiet I wasn’t impressed with POI or accuracy.
Added: Another thing to possibly consider if you just want to send a, “Go away, and don’t come back,” message is an airsoft pistol. They are reasonably accurate at close distances and even if you don’t connect with every shot it may still condition them to find someplace else to terrorize.
From a humane standpoint, though, I don’t know if a typical airsoft pistol might inflict injuries that would ultimately be lethal, but not immediately. The pellets from my pistol punch through multiple layers of cardboard, and I’ve seen them draw blood from unprotected skin.
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To operate serious weapons in a serious manner. March 17, 2024, 12:21 PM
RogueJSKI've used .22 CB loads in a 22/45 pistol to dispatch a couple troublesome possums before. They're quieter than regular .22LR, but not what I would characterize as "very quiet". It's still recognizable as a gunshot.
In addition, as already mentioned above, low power CB loads could have issues with the added friction from the longer barrel on a rifle, potentially resulting in squibs blocking the barrel.
And, also as mentioned, you're still firing an actual firearm towards/around your neighbors' houses, which could cause some legal or liability issues.
So another vote for an airgun here. It'll be quieter, safer, and more legal.
March 17, 2024, 02:38 PM
SW_SigI have a Benjamin Trail NP XL .22 cal pellet rifle. I have dispatched many pests wit it. 1100 fps.
Much quieter than Colibri or Super Colibri.
March 17, 2024, 03:38 PM
P220 SmudgeYep, airgun. No concerns about legalities and there’s a variety of guns and pellets that will absolutely get the job done.
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March 17, 2024, 04:27 PM
abnmacvThanks for the input, looks like an air rifle is in my future. I am cognizant of other houses, there are angles of fire that avoid hitting anyone's property.
Whenever shooting I think of backstop.
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March 19, 2024, 04:46 AM
jsjacI was given a Ruger brake action Springer. I have used on many gray and red squirrels.
I think you can get a pellet gun with a muffler to cut down on the noise also.
March 19, 2024, 10:02 AM
jeeperxdquote:
Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
Yep, airgun. No concerns about legalities and there’s a variety of guns and pellets that will absolutely get the job done.
Check your city or municipality laws where I live they even airguns are not allowed in city limits.
March 19, 2024, 10:23 AM
sigfreundquote:
Originally posted by jeeperxd:
Check your city or municipality laws ....
Good advice about something that applies in many more places than many people assume.
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To operate serious weapons in a serious manner. March 19, 2024, 06:22 PM
1860ARMYI'm not sure how wacking them is more effective than trapping them, each method eliminates one varmint. The first time you wound one and it starts running around the neighbors yard making a racket you will wish you had just bought an extra trap or two... I live rural enough to get rid of them either way and for chipmonks and tree rats I trap and transport...
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March 20, 2024, 03:59 PM
YellowJacketI have one of these and it will definitely dispatch squirrels with prejudice.
https://www.amazon.com/Gamo-61...aps%2C78&sr=8-1&th=1And this one is supposed to be quieter.
https://www.amazon.com/WildCat...01APG0T7W&th=1&psc=1
I'm gonna vote for the funniest frog with the loudest croak on the highest log. March 21, 2024, 06:41 PM
honestlouI have a Gamo Whisper, and with heavy (normal lead) pellets the projectile is subsonic and is very quiet. With alloy pellets it can be supersonic and you still hear a very audible "crack".
Also, while it doesn't sound like a gunshot, the pistion "thwang" or "doink" is quite loud. Definitely louder than a quiet .22 out of a bolt action. But, legalities on a firearm are a strong consideration.
March 22, 2024, 02:37 PM
sourdough44I’d have to lean a covert trap line. You’re already versed with using the live trap, bait & all. I think 4, 110 Conibear type traps would be more effective than shooting.
Yes, of course, pet proof & out of sight of neighbor activity. You run the risk of wounding anyway with a pellet rifle.
I had a relative in MI with a red squirrel problem, chipmunks also. He caught more with traps than he ever would with shooting.
Traps work 24/7, no worries being seen sticking a gun out the window.
March 24, 2024, 11:47 PM
preten2bOne more vote for 22 pellet rifle. I have/used Gamo Whisper Fusion. I'd suggest heavier pellets for accuracy and to keep at subsonic speeds (950fps), and it is quieter than the subsonic 22s I have tried. Plus, no powder smell. Accurate and =/- just 1" within 40+ yards.
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March 25, 2024, 01:04 PM
Ronin1069I have a very old .22 revolver that shoots subsonic ammo from my kitchen window pretty accurately and very quietly. I’ve giving it the ‘test’ by having a friend in ear shot.
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April 12, 2024, 05:50 PM
scratchyAnother vote for airgun. I have a Crosman single shot th is pretty dang accurate and much quieter than any 22
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