I have zippo knowledge of really of all the different tech, mounts, materials etc. so bear with me.
I have Silencerco Sparrow, AAC TiRant9, and a YHM Resonator K (.30 cal). I bought those because they were relatively inexpensive and I have had them all for years.

SBRs and suppressors are now approved for work
I am now wanting a dedicated 5.56 suppressor for a new rifle I am getting ready to do.

I am looking for something to go on a 10.5 or 11.5 rifle.
Feel that I want to use Plan B muzzle devices (it would really be nice if it comes with the mount) I don't want to have to buy the suppressor and then swap an adapter and hope something is in stock. As it seems to be nearly impossible to find a HUB mount for my YHM in stock for some reason.
I also don't want muzzle devices that are big like my YHM requires. This rifle will pretty much always be suppressed but I want as little point of impact shift as possible if I have to remove the suppressor.
I want it to be on the lighter side as this won't be a bench gun. If I have to deploy it it's going to be a long bad day.
I get that it is a 5.56 and it will never be whisper quiet but if I deploy I won't have hearing protection and very likely to be indoors.
Of course the lower the cost is helpful but I also understand you have to pay to play.

What would you go with?

As soon as our policy is finalized, I’ll be using my Geissele Super Duty with 14.5” barrel pinned and welded and set up for Huxwrx cans (that’s how it came from Geissele). I’ll be using my Huxwrx flow 556k. I played with that setup for the first time this evening, after picking up my can on Saturday. I truly believe that the Flow 556k is the best can on the market for a police duty rifle.

Personally, I would only run a flow through style suppressor on a duty rifle. They don’t affect reliability like a traditional baffle suppressor can. I don’t believe that an adjustable gas block belongs on a duty AR that isn’t a piston gun. I just don’t believe they are robust enough. That pretty much necessitates a flow through can for me. Huxwrx makes excellent cans of that style. Thunderbeast’s new Spiro appears to be excellent as well, and looks and feels damn near indestructible with its Hayes 282 construction. I just got one of these as well but haven’t been able to try it out yet, but it’s noticeably heavier than the 556k. Surefire makes the RC3 and RC4 in flow through style cans and they’re well regarded as well. The RC4 appears to be an improvement in every way over the RC3 and costs less too. If you are dead set on using a Plan B muzzle device and don’t want to adapt something else, the Spiro may be the best choice as it’s available in hub configuration allowing you to choose your muzzle device, whereas the Huxwrx and Surefire utilize their own proprietary muzzle devices (the Huxwrx does ship with a muzzle device though).

There’s a lot of option out there, leaving you some great choices. I researched the ones I mentioned pretty carefully and would be ok with any of them. Absolute reliability is far more important to me than just having the quietest can. I feel like I could pop off a couple rounds indoors with my setup without risking serious permanent hearing damage, but it’s far from silent. But at the end of the day, it’s an accurate, reliable setup and it does everything I need it to do.

I would go Dead Air CT5P with the mounting system of your choice. I haven’t seen what Guardian price will be but I’m guess mid sixes.

If it’s half as good as the Lazarus, it’ll be a winner. If you have your heart set on a HUB, go Lazarus.

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Originally posted by jljones:
I would go Dead Air CT5P with the mounting system of your choice. I haven’t seen what Guardian price will be but I’m guess mid sixes.

If it’s half as good as the Lazarus, it’ll be a winner. If you have your heart set on a HUB, go Lazarus.

This is what I'm doing. The hub option will add mass and length, and the CT5P does limit you to one of three options: Xeno, KeyMo, or direct thread. Still, it's tough enough for the short barrel and fairly light/small. If it will rarely come off that rifle, I wouldn't have a problem with direct thread, plus it's the shortest mount.

I have one awaiting approval; I'll post some feedback after it arrives and I get a range trip in.

if you get a choice between Xeno and direct thread pick Xeno. nobody should pick keymo.

Otter Creek Labs Polonium K with Plan B mount. Short, light, reliable mount. I use a Rearden RS2 flash-hider with mine.

That CT5P looks like it checks all the boxes and for under 7 bills to boot.
Looking at the Xeno mount it pretty much does what I was looking for in Plan B. The muzzle devices are smaller and not stupid expensive.
The 3 prong flash hider looks nice.

I also like how there is no removable hub and the Xeno mount is printed directly as part of the suppressor body.

Now that I can for work would really like to drop a couple inches so a 10.5" or 11.5" (probably the latter) would be nice.
I pinned and welded one of the YHM flash hiders on my 14.5" Wilson Combat rifle. So that is kind of dedicated to the YHM. I guess I could buy a 11.3 WC barrel and 9" WC handguard and use that and then swap the 14.5" P&W barrel to my London Bridge Tactical build I don't have a barrel for.
But I also really prefer to run factory built rifles for work so I have been eyeballing the new Sig M400 Forge 11.5 Pistol as that looks like a heck of a rifle/pistol for the price and even nicer if they offer the IOP on it. Then if they get rid of the stupid engraving rule just make it an SBR and slap a stock on it.

However I have been telling myself that if I buy another factory built AR it was going to be an FN.

Decisions, decisions. Guess I will go ahead and get CT5P when money allows and toss it on my 16" Aero and then save for the Sig or FN.

this is the best one going.

https://stealthadditive.com/pr...sha-5-56-suppressor/

It is, but for a patrol rifle, I wouldn’t suggest the inconel, I’d go titanium all day long. Unless you need absolutely no muzzle flash and you’re doing FRT mag dumps, the inconel is a waste over the titanium. Twice the weight, and not as quiet. Worth noting that oddly, these cans perform better on shorter barrel rifles over longer.

I ordered one of these plan on using a hub surefire mount, based on juicey media vids

https://swrifleworks.com/rhodie-6j/

Thats of course a nice can, with good suppression. I want one and the Tisha if I can somehow figure out hoe to make that happen commercially, but what P220Smudge notes is really the key issue in this discussion. If you have the funds (and you may not in the context of a work rifle) the ti ones are literally almost half the weight in the support of the OP "lighter weight".
That's a lot. If your duty cycle doesn't support Ti I'd be in the haynes 282 camp rather than inconel. One of my favorites is the B&T but of course nobody should deal with them at this point. The Hux is probably second on my personal list.

Titanium cans are not going to hold up and when you see how much material is blown off on firing a ti can you know you want iconel or haynes.

OK so what's your basis for that? What duty cycle and what round counts? For example the TI Thunderbeast Dominus is posted as surviving at least 10 cycles of the SOCOM/SURG firing schedule.
That's as brutal as one can imagine.

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
One of my favorites is the B&T but of course nobody should deal with them at this point.

What did I miss, what is wrong with B&T?

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

What did I miss, what is wrong with B&T?

There’s lots of financial shenanigans going on at B&T USA, where all B&T suppressors are manufactured. B&T Europe is suing B&T USA for over $15 million in unpaid invoices and is suing to remove their license to utilize the B&T name. Just lots of unknowns right now about exactly what you’re getting, when and if you’ll get what you order and if you’re actually getting something built to the Swiss B&T specifications. James Reeves did a good interview with Karl Brueghel a couple months ago that was pretty enlightening, and ultimately kind of disheartening. I’m personally a big B&T fan myself and hope things can get resolved sooner than later.

I've been down a huge reading rabbit hole on the subject the last 2 years and demoed about 20 different 5.56 cans. Cans that I have demoed on my short list are the Dead Air Lazarus/CT5P, SilencerCo Velos, Otter Creek Labs Infinity 556k, and CAT Super Thug (coming out any day).

Guess I will take a look at some of the Otter Creek Labs offerings.
I learned today that they are just down the road from me. Would like to do some business with the local folk if I can.

Black92LX there are two more companies around Lexington, Exigent Defense and Ridgeback Defense. They are both in business about 2 years and have generated a lot of social media buzz. As far as I know production is farmed out, B&T is printing some of the Exigent cans. The Ridgeback Rhodie and Exigent Fireteam might be really good, but I still have a bit of wait and see attitude with them, as so much of the buzz has been influencer driven, and I haven't been able to get my hands on one at a demo shoot yet.

For me there is a lot to like about Otter Creek, they are about 6 years old now, and have a track record of of being stand up people. They design, manufacture and have their own 3d printers in house now. I have seen them post that they knock off early some Friday afternoons for employee range time and have invited locals to go to with them. If I were local I would send Andrew or John an email and see if you could coordinate a demo.

Aaron Cowan/Sage Dynamics really likes the Exigent Defense 5.56 Firefight and Ridgeback Rhodi 6.

I put ALOT of stock in his reviews. He is almost always my first go to when looking at gun stuff especially optics.

I’m going to nose around a bit more. Talked to a buddy who has been through Ridgeback’s facility and was impressed. They actually print their stuff.
Guess Exigent being a B&T collab could cause some hiccups down the road depending upon what happens with that lawsuit stuff.

A Ridgeback Rhodie 6Ti with a Plan B mount is the ticket. You will have to source the mounts separately, but a Rearden or whatever are pretty available.

I recently got a Ridgeback Rhino X (an inconel can) and a SAW Ekron 30. The Ekron is very low back pressure and sounds great. Titanium and lightweight. But it is spendy, and a touch bulky. I truly love my Rhino, and that is on my go to rifle. It sounds wonderful, is fairly low back pressure, and is compact and built like a tank.

Just for comparison on back pressure, I have a Sig 556SBR with 6 position gas block. Unsuppressed, it requires position 5 to run reliably. With my YHM Turbo K, I can go down to setting 2. The Rhino is a 4, and with the Ekron, I have to bump it back up to setting 5.

I would greatly recommend a Rhino S (the Ti version of the same can), but all the YouTube trendsetters are raving on the Rhodie, which of course released after I ordered Rhino, but before I got it. Figures. Anyway, they just released a Ti Rhodie, and that sounds like the ticket for you.

I’ve also heard good things about Exigent, but no personal experience.