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isn’t the kvp alpha pattern? a majove9 is da pseries

Eww. Yeah, sure enough, Ronin's stuck with the Dead Air tri lug.

At least it comes with a direct thread 1/2x28 and you can direct thread it until you can get your hands on the proprietary tri lug. I guess get some plumber's tape on the threads to keep it from walking off in the meantime.

That's ok, I'm hopefully very soon going to be into a Hub compatible pistol can and I'm trying to decide if a $65 Hub to Alpha adapter and an extra 1.4oz makes sense, or if I should just get a dedicated Hub compatible tri lug for roughly the same overall investment and shave a couple ounces of weight. Mounts. So much fun.

I don't know how often they restock, that's probably up to Dead Air, but Hansohn Bros is legit:
https://hansohnbrothers.com/sh.../dead-air-9mm-3-lug/

this won't help the OP. But my limited experience is that adapters that go down in size seem OK, those that go up don't seem very good to me.
For the OP my go to source for da accessories is europtic which has decent pricing and is very reliable. But of course if you are in a hurry then DA will probably ship fastest. It seems out of stock everywhere.

i guess I will have to wait till they make more..sucks that it is twice as much as the other brand. can I still buy the kaw trilug muzzle device?

You can, but I didn’t see that anyone makes an adapter for Alpha to P-series or back again. You might email and ask Ecco Machine, but I don’t know if it would be worth your while.

Ecco does indeed make the adapter you need pseries to alpha for just this purpose. BUT I woudn't be an advocate for an adapter here as you are starting from stratch and its not like you have 10 existing alpha devices.
The DA 3 lug is not that bad at europtic $113 versus $90 for the KVP. And the adapter (you really don't want) is $66.
There are a million muzzle device choices, really have at it. There are probably no bad ones. the KVP one is fine. I like the rugged one since it has go/no go lines. But I probably have a dozen different brands and I've never noticed anything that mattered between them. But I've never shopped for these on price so that may matter in your selection.

Not that it matters a whole lot in this context, but Hansohn has the KVP also for $65. If it were me in this situation, I’d be going with the dedicated DA amount rather than trying to cobble together some shit with adapters if I didn’t have to. Hrcjon’s right, if you don’t have anything else in Alpha pattern, I wouldn’t go chasing that rabbit.

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Not that it matters a whole lot in this context, but Hansohn has the KVP also for $65. If it were me in this situation, I’d be going with the dedicated DA amount rather than trying to cobble together some shit with adapters if I didn’t have to. Hrcjon’s right, if you don’t have anything else in Alpha pattern, I wouldn’t go chasing that rabbit.

I just want to know wich muzzle device is needed for the DA adapter. are you saying to stick with the direct threads?

You want a DA444 for the Majove 9 3lug. Get it where you can find it in stock and a decent price.
You want any 1/2x28 three lug adapter for the muzzle. These are universal as the standard they are built for is HK 3lug. like these...
https://kawvalleyprecision.com...-suppressor-adapter/
or this https://www.ruggedsuppressors.com/3-lug-adapter

I think what P220Smudge was trying to help you with is that you might be able to get the parts to use direct thread till you chase down the 3 lug parts. The Majove 9 ships with a piston so on your PCC you have to find fixed barrel spacer
https://deadairsilencers.com/p...y=fixed+barrel+space or alternatively a pseries direct thread mount.


If any of that doesn't make sense to you or is confusing then post what is confusing...

I think I got all that...

I also didnt realize that I needed a fixed barrel spacer. that is also out of stock.

Note that for the Mojave cans, DA says you need the Mojave specific fixed barrel spacer they sell. They say not to use the regular P-series one with the Mojave.

That's correct info. the link I gave is the right one. And the part number is PB139 if you are looking on other sites.
Depending on how desperate you are to use your new suppressor before you can find the right parts and how much you want to spend on a temporary work around the direct mount pseries adapter seems to be in stock.

I just went with the direct thread adapter for my Mojave 45 when used on PCCs. My feeling is, why have the extra dead weight of the piston and booster housing that aren’t being used? Plus, don’t have to worry about remembering whether the spring or FBS is installed.

Honestly, I would do the same thing with the same reasoning. Don’t forget a few wraps of plumber’s tape to prevent walkoff, that way you don’t have to screw around with constantly checking the can.

If you have any -literally any at all- and the OP does you should not use direct thread. OK if the other option is Keymo then direct thread it is.
BUT it just sucks. at almost every level. Which is why the universe is filled with a zillion options to get rid of direct thread, in every imaginable size and shape.
The OP should continue his plan to get 3 lug when he can get the necessary parts.
In the interim if he wants the fixed barrel spacer is a very inexpensive way to use the parts that came with the suppressor and shoot if its easily available. Its not a long term answer because the long term answer is the OP should go to 3lug.
Dwill104 obviously has lots of experience but in his shoes I would go xeno in nanosecond.

I agree that DT isn’t the greatest option. My comment was more directed at if your choice is piston with FBS, then there are some advantages with just going DT. For my 9mm PCCs, all have 3 lug muzzle devices, and I have 9mm 3-lug adapter for my cans that can run 9mm.

For .45 PCCs like my SP45A3, it’s a bit more complicated since .45 3-lugs and adapters aren’t as standardized and commonplace as 9mm ones. DA doesn’t even make a .45 3-lug adapter, so there’s no factory option for my Mojave 45. That said, I’ve been looking at the Xeno Xero and Xeno P-series mount since I got the Mojave, and am about ready to pull the trigger on that option.

A bit off topic, but its annoying DA doesn't make a .45 3 lug pseries (or even at all). Its why I have avoided them in that caliber. The ACP45 dimensioned .45 3lug seems pretty standardized and I run that on anything I can and rugged, B&T, silencerco and others have adapters that mate to it. And you can get the muzzle side from a bunch of people, though I normally run the rugged one.
When that's not possible, I do what you are considering and run Xeno. Or in the case of the LWRC which needs a booster the griffen.

Let me say thank you to everyone that has answered questions and given advice. hrc, Dwill and Smudge especially.

Do you put covers on your suppressors and if so wich ones?

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Let me say thank you to everyone that has answered questions and given advice. hrc, Dwill and Smudge especially.

Do you put covers on your suppressors and if so wich ones?

I normally don’t. The covers are mostly used to prevent heat mirage from distorting the view through your optic, but I don’t really have that problem how I run my guns.

I haven’t yet, and probably will not. Only once so far has heat mirage even been noticeable to me, and it was shooting some steels at 300 yards under 6x magnification. It was 104 degrees in the shade that day, but this was a couple weeks ago in Phoenix. Enough said there. Rifle cans can get cooking hot, pistol cans on PCC’s get nowhere near as hot, but can be too hot to handle with your bare hands. I’ve been kissed a couple times by hot cans on slung rifles. It’s a learning experience.

I don’t wanna hold the heat in the cans, I want to let them cool off as fast as possible, and since so far they’re all sealed tubeless designs, they do it quickly. To that end, I have a little USB chargeable personal fan I keep in my range bag that I’ll turn on and set blowing right on hot cans on guns set down on the bench. I also have some silicon curling iron covers I can throw over hot suppressors if I need to handle them while hot or even just throw on them if I need to bag everything up and just go home. They’re also handy to removing hot cans if need be. I’ve found that if used as a “get home” option that these will retain the heat for hours, so I recommend removing them and letting everything cool once you get home if you opt to try them out that way.

Here’s the Amazon links to what I have for reference, but there are many options:

https://a.co/d/ewxX69Y
https://a.co/d/71S89Hf


Depending on where you live, you might deem these unnecessary, but at the very least, I suggest trying out a curling iron cover. I use them to remove and handle hot cans fairly regularly.

I don't use covers. On the PCC's since those don't use magnified optics its never an issue.
I find the best for handling hot suppresors is welding gloves (cheap, easy to find everywhere) and a welding blanket in case I have to set one somewhere that I need insulated.