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| quote: I’ve been thinking of getting the Surefire HUB adapter since I have a couple Surefire muzzle devices but I’ve heard mixed reviews
mixed reviews of muzzle devices or the hub adapter. I've large amouts of both and the only real issue I think anyone needs to know about is sound suppression with the warcomp just plain sucks compared the the regular FH. That excludes using the B&T hub which does have issues and/or the issue of the length which is a constant issue for HUB adapters. Something else? I've been pretty happy with surefire, but of course it really isn't anything someone who doesn't already have them should consider.
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| My son has a Mk18 and is getting a Surefire RC2. I just wanted the ability to swap some of my cans for him to try (trust). So yes, Surefire hub adapter for my non Surefire cans. I also have a Geissele URG upper with SF so that would help me as well.
Specifically I heard about a lot of gas escaping from the mount and perhaps some carbon lock as well. I have no first hand experience whatsoever, this is just what I read. |
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| Its easily the most installed and used mount on the planet. Its has some quirks I would say because its been around a very long time in terms of design compared to more recent taper designs like Plan B but there is nothing materially or even moderately wrong with it (unlike for example keymo). It needs to stay clean and surefire makes tools to help you do that. I use it regularily and don't have any serious complaints. If the muzzle device is already a surefire I would have no problems saying run the hub on a non surefire can (assuming the length permits it). And of course if its a surefire can you are all in anyway. They changed it recently but forever the solution to a carbon locked surefire was to just shoot it off and that works just fine  all FWIW>
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| Yup. I plan on buying the SF adapter. Shooting it off sounds, interesting. lol
I am now a Xeno guy. So this is just to use some SF muzzle device uppers in a pinch. |
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| Well, back on topic. Got a Surefire SOCOM 4. Dont have a ton of rounds through it but I think I may like the Lazarus better. It’s stil a little lighter.
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| That's interesting what mount? I thought you were running Keymo and on published specs the keymo mount Lazarus is heavier than the RC4 with surefire. Of course these are tiny differences IMO. what about sound?
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| It’s non scientific how it feels in the hand.
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| Webz says the Lazarus is about half ounce lighter. Do es “feel” like more than that. I swapped Xeno about a month ago or so due to Keymo coming loose under recoil
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| quote: Originally posted by jljones:
Well, back on topic. Got a Surefire SOCOM 4. Dont have a ton of rounds through it but I think I may like the Lazarus better. It’s stil a little lighter.
A coworker got an RC4 or as he likes to call it, the RC foreskin recently and liked it. He then got a Huxwrk flow 556k and likes that one better. I’ve got a Flow 556k and 762Ti on order myself and can’t wait to give them a try. My dealer just received my Thunderbeast Spiro this morning so hopefully I’ll be trying them all out soon. I went with the hub mount for the Thunderbeast, so my thought is to use the huxwrks to hub adapter with a huxwrks mount on the rifle whenever I’m using the Spiro.
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| I like TBAC stuff so I'm interested in the Spiro, post what you think of it.
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| I know there probably isn’t a hard and fast answer but is the L6 considered a K can? It sure is shorter than my other cans. Form factor is nearly perfect. I shot my SF adapter can for the first time. Worked fine obviously but it certainly didn’t help in the length category. I’m not sure I’m sold on the adapter completely. It is easily the longest can I own in my tiny wee arsenal. |
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| The Lazarus 6 is 5.89” (Xeno), 6.4” (KeyMo). Compare that to the Surefire SOCOM-RC2 5.56 at 6.2" and the SOCOM Mini 2 at 5". I'd say it's about average. Perhaps the greater diameter makes it appear more squat. |
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| Right now, we have about half dozen Lazarus cans at work. It was a test purchase as a possible replacement for RC2s. We just got in a bunch of new BCM MK2 11.5 uppers. The upper/can combo is awesome. Gun balances great, extremely extremely low gas blow back and soft shooting. Great combination.
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