Just anecdotal evidence, but...I went to pick up a can that had just been approved and I mentioned to my FFL that we were coming up on 90 days since I e-filed a Form 4 (did it the day it went live). I told him I was curious to see if the 90 day estimate by SilencerShop was going to be true and he mentioned that he'd already received a few of them back. Both had been approved in about a month! I trust the guy immensely and that was the first I'd heard of anyone being approved on the e-file. Has anyone else heard of approvals?
March 09, 2022, 01:24 PM
Oat_Action_Man
So after like 3 weeks of dilly dallying on my dealer's end, I got all my stuff from Silencer Shop. Just waiting for a call from the dealer to come in and do the final bits, since I'm transferring as an individual.
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March 09, 2022, 07:20 PM
Dwill104
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Originally posted by pcshooter: Just anecdotal evidence, but...I went to pick up a can that had just been approved and I mentioned to my FFL that we were coming up on 90 days since I e-filed a Form 4 (did it the day it went live). I told him I was curious to see if the 90 day estimate by SilencerShop was going to be true and he mentioned that he'd already received a few of them back. Both had been approved in about a month! I trust the guy immensely and that was the first I'd heard of anyone being approved on the e-file. Has anyone else heard of approvals?
The only ones I’ve heard of being approved in a month were a couple expedited for military reasons. I’ve heard a few “someone said” stories, but haven’t seen any proof. That said, it would be great if normal processing ones are starting to come back.
Edit: It’s been reported at arf that a couple of “normal” F4s submitted on 12/23 and 12/24 have come back approved. 77 days to approval.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dwill104,
March 12, 2022, 08:05 PM
hrcjon
If I was in charge of this technology program at the ATF(and I've done similar projects) the ONE thing I would do is make sure that a small sample of the early ones come back quickly. No matter what I had to do on an exceptional basis to make that happen. Makes the whole program look like a win and a success. Now when we see most if not all of them come back quickly we will know they actually accomplished something useful.
“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
March 15, 2022, 06:45 PM
sasquatch28
From the initial information posted, it appears that individual Form 4s are being processed before trusts.
March 15, 2022, 07:51 PM
hrcjon
bless them.
“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
March 21, 2022, 08:22 PM
hlb14
The shop I work at got our first eform approval back Saturday. It was filed as an individual on Jan 20th. There are still some forms pending that were filed prior to the one that was approved.
March 22, 2022, 08:02 AM
squad13
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got our first eform approval back Saturday
That's excellent news!!!
March 22, 2022, 09:04 AM
KSGM
eform4 submitted 1/18/22; received approved today.
March 22, 2022, 11:43 AM
Creeping_Death
I know the ATF has 30 days to get the approved stamp to the dealer, but has anyone seeing approvals seeing stamps in hand yet?
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March 22, 2022, 12:02 PM
KSGM
IME with form1 efiles, you don't get a physical stamp. Did they say they were sending actual stamps on the form4s?
March 22, 2022, 01:40 PM
Dwill104
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Originally posted by KSGM: eform4 submitted 1/18/22; received approved today.
Did you also get the approval email, with an attached stamped F4, or do they just email it to the dealer, and the dealer called you like with the paper F4s?
March 22, 2022, 02:02 PM
KSGM
I got an email as well.
March 22, 2022, 08:02 PM
hrcjon
I'm unclear, is this like EF1 and there will never be a stamp or does the dealer actually get a stamped F4?
“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
March 22, 2022, 09:40 PM
Dwill104
There is no physical stamp like on the paper forms. It’s a stamp watermark in the corner like on the eForm 1s.
March 23, 2022, 05:09 AM
Creeping_Death
Thank you for the responses. Should the transferring dealer then be able to print the approved form from their eForm account?
Evaluating volume of fire vs. shot placement effectiveness.
March 23, 2022, 05:12 AM
KSGM
You can print it right from the email the ATF sends you.
March 23, 2022, 07:51 PM
Oat_Action_Man
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Originally posted by KSGM: You can print it right from the email the ATF sends you.
The completed form is supposed to show up in your eForms account after approval as well, right?
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March 23, 2022, 07:57 PM
KSGM
I miraculously remembered my password without referring to my notes. No form in my online account. Under the approved tab, there is only the option to view my form1s.
My guess is it will only show in the account of the dealer/submitter.
March 23, 2022, 11:25 PM
Stlhead
I e filed for a can on 1-11 and it was approved 3-21. If only they would have approved the other forms that have been in limbo for MONTHS.