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I went on my first hog hunt last weekend at a potential new club and now I’m hooked. I killed one hundred pound sow with a thermal Iray Rico on an unsuppressed 223 AR at 107 yards and she was dead before she hit the ground. Another similar sow was shot in the same place and she ran off like it was nothing. I have both 223 and 308 lowers and a 223 length SBR lower. I want a dedicated upper with either a can or integrally suppressed for hog hunting that will put down boars up to 300+ pounds. It would be nice if it could also double as a deer gun. They put out corn by the ton and are eaten up with hogs. I have a reloader but would probably buy factory ammo. I would be using fixed stands, portable climbers and stalking for what it’s worth. Any practical info on calibers or quality complete uppers would be much appreciated.
Also does anyone have experience with 375 Raptor? It uses 308 brass and supposedly a 12 inch barrel 375 has more muzzle energy at 100 yards than an 18 inch 308 has at its muzzle, or so I’ve been told so I was thinking a 12 inch SBR with added suppressor would still be a manageable length. It could also be loaded in supersonic or subsonic velocities which might be a plus. Any thoughts?


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Have you considered an upper in 300 Blackout, 7.62x39, 6.5 Grendel or 6mm Arc?
 
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6mmARC looks interesting.


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Not really hunting, more of a pest control device

Ten+ years ago we built 6 integrally suppressed 300 Black Out, bolt action rifles for a customer that had a issue of hogs eating and destroying crops

The goal of the design was accuracy and power. He also wanted quiet so that they could eliminate more than one pest per evening.



We buy the bare receivers from Savage (model 10). The aluminium chassis were designed in our shop and we run them off our CMC mills. Any AR15 style butstock and pistol grip will work, so if there is one you alredy like, it attaches right up.

We designed a magazine well so it can use AR15 magazines, or it can be setup to work like a standard bolt gun . . . loading the cartridges through the top. The problem with magazines is that too many of the no-name companies do not work right, so we dropped that as an option

I do not have the notes on our handload with me, but it is a 200 grain projectile that sounds like a staple gun. Plus it shoots 1/2 MOA.

The rifle shoots around 1 MOA with most quality Factory ammunition offerings

The following video is with our handload, we recorded it from different angles just to show how quiet this is. The first sound that you hear is the cartridge firing. The second sound is the projectile striking the backstop

300 Black Ops rifle being fired with Sub Sonic ammunition

We have probably built 12 - 15 of these across the past decade

It was a very fun project

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Wow. I love that!




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Originally posted by Colby Bruce:
Have you considered an upper in 300 Blackout,


My brother hunts hogs with suppressed 300 Blackout, and he’s got me interested in going with him later this year. I’ve got a lot of learning to do.




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My son hunts them with a supressed sbr ar in 300 blackout with good results. I have a ar15 chambered in 762x39 which does the job well. I like the 762x39 for solid clean kills, it is not silenced as I don’t know of a source for subsonic ammunition.
 
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Atomic, Brown Bear, Hornady, PPU and a few other companies manufacture 7.62x39 sub-sonic ammunition. I have fired the Brown Bear through a 16" barrel AR with a Dead Air Sandman S with decent results, though not totally quiet.
 
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I would not use subsonic ammo on anything bigger than a coyote. I don't think you can have too much firepower for hogs. Subsonic 300BO is pretty anemic in comparison to full power loads.

I have a 6.5 Grendel upper for this kind of thing. It has a mount for my Rugged Radiant.

If I had an AR10, I'd use that. Even with a big can 308 or 375 will be loud with a shorter barrel, but very effective. I still recommend a big light suppressor.
 
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My son hunts them with a supressed sbr ar in 300 blackout with good results.


That’s my brother’s way.
I like the idea of a 6.5 Grendel, but I’m not in a position to buy a 6.5 upper right now.




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Federal has announced subsonic .308 ammo. How it would differ from .300BO, I don't know, but I thought it's an interesting development.

Federal Subsonic Ammo




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Federal has announced subsonic .308 ammo. How it would differ from .300BO, I don't know, but I thought it's an interesting development.

Federal Subsonic Ammo


It will differ in the fact that it will not cycle a semi-auto reliably (I bet). At least 300BO will cycle in most guns as long as a can is present.

Still, if you are gonna kill stuff, kill it hard. Don't use subs.
 
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I have some experience with the lapua subsonics.
Not a chance to cycle a semi. I run them normally in a bolt gun.
Energy levels on par with a good handgun round which may be enough or not. I've not hunted hogs but I would guess its a poor choice given the internet heresay about how tough they are.


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