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Are we nuts to consider buying a different house? (Now a conversation about group homes)

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December 20, 2022, 02:20 PM
Scuba Steve Sig
Are we nuts to consider buying a different house? (Now a conversation about group homes)
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Originally posted by a1abdj:
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I fear they're hiding something. Probably lead paint.

The realtor said the property was under contract three times this year and buyers immediately backed out each time.



Several years back there was a two story "house" down the street from one of my rental houses for sale by a bank that foreclosed on it for $160,000. Would have taken about $40,000 worth of work to make into a 2, 3, or 4 unit apartment building. One day I'm driving by and I see a truck with a small drill rig on the back boring holes into the ground. I stop and talk to the guy doing the drilling, and he hands me a tube and says to smell it.

Gasoline. This house used to be a small store with fuel pumps, and the owner lived above. This store closed long before I was familiar with the area, so I had no idea. The fuel tanks were never removed, and had leached into the ground. Guy who had it under contract backed out. Out of curiosity I called the bank and they offered it to me for $8,000. I had researched things a bit, and although there were some ways around it, the information I came up with would require me to remediate the property at my expense. That was a no-go, so I passed.

Shortly thereafter another guy came in and swooped it up for the $8,000. He said he put about $50,000 into it for a total of $58,000. It has a large downstairs unit of 1,600 sq. ft., and two upstairs unit of 800 each. Between the 3 he gets $2,500 a month, and has been doing so (probably more now) since 2006. So not counting taxes, insurance, and maintenance, that's about $480,000 out of his $58,000 investment, and he still owns the property outright. Everybody knows about the fuel tanks and nobody cares. Feds don't care. County doesn't care.

Moral of the story: It doesn't matter how much a property is suffering so long as it has the potential and can be purchased right. If you're interested, low ball them. They may just take it.


Our first house was in South St. Louis, there was a bush that was overgrown we had sellers remove (this was 2008 when it was a buyers market and you could ask for the world). Our inspection happened with the bush still there. After moving in and doing some yard work I find a cast iron closed off filling pipe sticking out of the ground where the bush used to be... Turns out there was an underground fuel oil tank there. I'm a lawyer and lawyers I knew I talked to about said chop off the pipe, nobody knows. I didn't want to get stung on that fraud and couldn't put it back on flipper seller's easily so I did nothing. Come 2012 when it was just as much a buyer's market and the house has been on the market for 6 months it became an issue with our potential buyer, who our listing agent brought in as dual-agent. There was no requirement by law for it to come out, but they wouldn't buy unless it was out and verified no leak by the company after soil tests. Luckily it was empty and hadn't leaked, cost about $3K I think. Realtor and tank removal guy said call St. Louis Fire Dept. to let them know it was being removed. They couldn't figure out why I was calling, they didn't care.
December 20, 2022, 03:11 PM
SW_Sig
Mark,

You are a good dad. We have seen Marky grow up through your posts here over the years.

Chubby-cheeked little boy, birthdays, dancing videos, first job, and much more.

I pray this is a good move for him and helps him become more independent.

You have been here a long time, career changes, selling a ring, family growing up, family challenges...
December 20, 2022, 03:19 PM
6guns
This has to be very difficult for everyone and particularly, you, Mark. But honestly, after all I've read about the situation, I think it's for the best and certainly you can visit as much as you want. Knowing he's getting professional care should give you some relief for the long term.




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December 22, 2022, 03:07 PM
mark123
Thanks guys.

I’m trying to consider the fact that Marky wouldn’t make it if something happened to me. I am almost at the point of convincing myself that this is for the best. I’m also thinking that if he were to have another incident, they’d probably put him in a place we didn’t choose. After seeing the first two group homes, I’m happy we got to say no to them.
December 22, 2022, 03:10 PM
ZSMICHAEL
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yep. You never want what the state thinks is best.
December 26, 2022, 06:42 PM
mark123
We have the Uhaul all loaded up. Tomorrow morning is moving day for Marky.
December 26, 2022, 10:13 PM
Johnny 3eagles
Mark, we are keeping you all in our prayers. Faith has a way of working things out for the best.





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Don't slow down. If you're scared don't show it.
You might get out before the devil even knows you're there.


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December 27, 2022, 05:14 AM
nhracecraft
Hope everything goes well for all concerned today...


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December 27, 2022, 05:16 AM
r0gue
Good luck today Mark. Praying God rides shotgun on this one. My gut says he was there already when I called.




December 27, 2022, 05:23 AM
Dreamerx4
Praying for your family today Mark... I am sorry for your situation.



December 27, 2022, 08:15 AM
joel9507
Moving day is here. Best of luck to you all.

It seems like this is the best of all reasonable solutions, and I hope it comes off smoothly for both Marky and you.
December 27, 2022, 02:36 PM
mark123
I’m back home after getting Marky settled. The only thing i couldn’t get done was setting up his chromecast to the new network. Has anyone done that successfully? Google Home cannot find the device no matter what i tried.

Other than that, I’ve never felt so sad in my life.
December 27, 2022, 04:52 PM
r0gue
Hang in there man. I can't imagine how hard this is. I admire your ability to soldier through, and do the right thing. It'll get easier, and feel more normal. I hope soon, for you.




December 27, 2022, 06:03 PM
mark123
Marky likes vanilla almond milk with his morning cereal and I forgot to bring it. I told Shirley and she said “let’s bring it to him”. We popped in unannounced and Marky was having a great time. It made us feel better.
December 27, 2022, 07:55 PM
old rugged cross
Good to hear. He will probably do well. It it will be different, but that is not a bad thing. It will also be different for you and again, not a bad thing.



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December 29, 2022, 08:24 AM
joel9507
quote:
We popped in unannounced and Marky was having a great time.

That's excellent news! Smile
December 29, 2022, 08:39 AM
HRK
quote:
Originally posted by mark123:
I’m back home after getting Marky settled. The only thing i couldn’t get done was setting up his chromecast to the new network. Has anyone done that successfully? Google Home cannot find the device no matter what i tried.

Other than that, I’ve never felt so sad in my life.


I've run across a few times when setup didn't go as planned.

Here is a cheat sheet that might help you, it's what I used.

Link
December 29, 2022, 09:41 AM
mark123
quote:
Originally posted by HRK:
I've run across a few times when setup didn't go as planned.

Here is a cheat sheet that might help you, it's what I used.

Link
thank you. I’ll try it.
December 31, 2022, 05:56 PM
mark123
quote:
Originally posted by mark123:
quote:
Originally posted by HRK:
I've run across a few times when setup didn't go as planned.

Here is a cheat sheet that might help you, it's what I used.

Link
Thank you. I’ll try it.
I forgot to report back that it worked. Of course that was after I bought and installed Marky’s new TV. Haha.

There were already a couple negative incidences with the staff messing up. We’re trying to chalk it up to it being the holidays and some of the regular staff is out but we’ve already been talking about pulling him out. I’m sure that’s mostly emotions but I just can’t shake the sadness.
December 31, 2022, 06:17 PM
ZSMICHAEL
What happened?