What some divers found in a military-style backback...
Well what the hell do you think they found? Note that this was in Texas. So which one of you guys was missing a Pro Carry II? The fun begins around 02:12...
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December 23, 2019, 05:57 PM
ArtieS
I'm pretty sure I just learned not to call the cops if I find a gun in a river.
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December 23, 2019, 06:14 PM
gearhounds
I’ll bet one of the cops has a new (to them) Kimber Carry. That is some bs right there.
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December 23, 2019, 06:16 PM
c1steve
Gun will be destroyed? You mean resold to the police get some revenue for it?
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December 23, 2019, 06:21 PM
83v45magna
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Originally posted by ArtieS: I'm pretty sure I just learned not to call the cops if I find a gun in a river.
Me too. I'd be replacing the barrel though after a thorough detail strip and cleaning.
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December 23, 2019, 08:01 PM
Doc H.
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Originally posted by 83v45magna:
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Originally posted by ArtieS: I'm pretty sure I just learned not to call the cops if I find a gun in a river.
Me too. I'd be replacing the barrel though after a thorough detail strip and cleaning.
But he "just took the bullet out, so it's safe now." 'Click' "Yuk, yuk."
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December 23, 2019, 08:05 PM
RR
Sooo many questions. $9? Chapstick? Car keys? ONE mag? Cocked and locked? Don’t think it’s been under water too long. Very strange.
December 23, 2019, 08:13 PM
kkina
Actually I bet we could spill a lot of EDC packs from members right here and find nearly identical loadouts.
I carry a tactical diaper bag like that every day...
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December 23, 2019, 10:28 PM
lechiffre
Lost in a boating accident
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December 23, 2019, 11:32 PM
Andcommande
That sucks it will be destroyed. I think that’s BS. He found it, it should be his. At worst, maybe a background check on him. But he’s right, it’s $1K, that should go to him.
December 24, 2019, 04:25 AM
Blume9mm
Yep, I call bS on the destroyed part too.... are they going to destroy the money and other stuff in the pack?
Some LEO is going to clean that up and keep it.
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December 24, 2019, 05:00 AM
arfmel
What police department was that?
December 24, 2019, 06:38 AM
RR
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Originally posted by kkina: Actually I bet we could spill a lot of EDC packs from members right here and find nearly identical loadouts.
Haha. More like 3 tourniquets, a bottle of booze, and at least 50 rounds of ammo! And the chapstick
December 24, 2019, 06:56 AM
gjgalligan
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Originally posted by ArtieS: I'm pretty sure I just learned not to call the cops if I find a gun in a river.
You might end up with a gun used in a murder, not good if you were caught with it.
I think in most areas it is the law that you report a "found" gun.
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December 24, 2019, 06:59 AM
sourdough44
I guess the guy who dropped it never had I.D. in the bag. I suppose the bag drifted in the current a while before settling somewhere.
I’d try to find the owner myself, as & if able, with what’s available. One does have vehicle keys that likely start his vehicle.
If I had reason to believe the gun was involved in a crime, yes, turn it in.
Just a month ago there is a homemade sign at a local carry-in launch, ‘lost gun’, with reward. Often one sets a shotgun(waterfowl hunting) down while unlocking the truck, loads up, then forgets. Not exactly the case posted above.
December 24, 2019, 07:08 AM
jcsabolt2
Stupid question, why not trace the gun to the owner and notify him they found his bag?
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December 24, 2019, 07:13 AM
ArtieS
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Originally posted by gjgalligan:
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Originally posted by ArtieS: I'm pretty sure I just learned not to call the cops if I find a gun in a river.
You might end up with a gun used in a murder, not good if you were caught with it.
I think in most areas it is the law that you report a "found" gun.
I thought about this. There are only 9 states that require notification of a found gun. I don't live in one of those. These guys videoed the entire process. They pretty clearly recovered the gun from the river. I mean, it could be an elaborate ruse, but the KISS principal applies, so they have a really good defense if something turns out amiss.
I would either have a lawyer call in the number on my behalf, or I would take it to a pawn shop to "see what they would give me for it". They would call it in. If stolen, then we collectively call the cops, of not, "well, I think I'll keep it for now." This would ensure that if it was reported lost or stolen, the rightful owner gets it back.
In order for a gun to be a "murder gun" or "crime gun" it has to be tied to a criminal event in some way. That means, a confession ("I threw it in the river with my bag and $9"); a witness statement ("I saw him throw it in the river in a dark bag after he shot that guy"); or testing through the bullet database that jljones comments on periodically, and even that won't tell you much. If there is no nexus to a crime, then there is no way to identify a gun as one that was involved in a crime.
The facts in this case look a lot like an accidental loss. Not many criminals would fling bag, money, ammo, magazines, and car keys into the river. They'd either just fling the gun, or a smart one might just fling the barrel.
On balance, therefore, I would not personally be calling the cops and turning it in.
"I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation."
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December 24, 2019, 07:21 AM
MikeinNC
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Originally posted by jcsabolt2: Stupid question, why not trace the gun to the owner and notify him they found his bag?
The recovering dept may very well be doing that. A query to ATF is emailed and they search records to find where it was shipped from the manufacturer. Then they tell ATF where it was sent to (FFL dealer). Then ATF calls the FFL and asks a trace. The dealer has to go thru his records and calls the ATF back and gives the info from the form the buyer filled out. Then an ATF agent goes to the last address and the investigation continues...but regular people are not required to keep records of how or who they sold the gun to...only a few states require registration so these are usually fruitless.
The take away is that ATF can find where the gun was sold the first time....
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