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you gotta wonder ,who looks at a shotgun muzzle and says to themselves,
"I can beat this" ?


I actually laughed out loud at that.

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"A shotgun can be a fight stopper".

I witnessed it. Prison yard fight (Philly vs. Pittsburgh gangs)

Nearby Tower officer walked onto the catwalk and chambered a round in his shotgun.

Gang fight stopped.


I've found that I can go damn near anywhere at work (city police) with a rifle slung and people do not pay you the least bit of attention, but you come walking up with a shotgun and people notice. It's really kind of an odd thing.
 
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I really like my Versa Max Tactical. It has been 100% reliable shooting anything and everything regardless of the mix. My only complaint, I can't get an 18" barrel for it yet. 22" is a tad long for HD.


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Originally posted by bendable:
you gotta wonder ,who looks at a shotgun muzzle and says to themselves,
"I can beat this" ?


I actually laughed out loud at that.

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Originally posted by GWbiker:
"A shotgun can be a fight stopper".

I witnessed it. Prison yard fight (Philly vs. Pittsburgh gangs)

Nearby Tower officer walked onto the catwalk and chambered a round in his shotgun.

Gang fight stopped.


I've found that I can go damn near anywhere at work (city police) with a rifle slung and people do not pay you the least bit of attention, but you come walking up with a shotgun and people notice. It's really kind of an odd thing.


When I was in Iraq you could point a rifle or even swing a belt fed onto someone and they would not bat an eye. But draw a pistol and they would scatter
 
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Originally posted by captain127:When I was in Iraq you could point a rifle or even swing a belt fed onto someone and they would not bat an eye. But draw a pistol and they would scatter


That just might be because they had no idea who it might hit, let alone who it might be aimed at. Smile
 
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I, too, prefer carbines or rifles, but I do have a shotgun and to maintain my proficiency I use it on occasion with a reactive targets (steel plates) course I developed. One thing I stress with other users of the weapon is that it’s possible to miss despite its being a “scattergun” and using birdshot for training. At the close range the officer fired from, and especially with buckshot or a slug, that’s even more possible. He definitely did everything right, including the marksmanship.


At that range the pattern is 2 inches, more or less. Most people don't realize that.


Heck, at the range in that video, especially if he was using Federal Flite Control, that shot was all still in the cup. The little "air brakes" on the shot cup may not even have opened by then. Eek

This video has high speed footage of Flite Control leaving the muzzle: https://youtu.be/0dbZK9Lm9jQ.

It looks like it barely starts leaving the cup at about 8 yards-ish.

That's very good for the hostage, because at that range, I bet the wad to the head would be quite injurious, if not fatal, and even the shot buffer would possibly damage her eyes.


Interesting video.




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I know of at least one person who would disagree with you, if he could.....
 
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Originally posted by DaBigBR:
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Originally posted by bendable:
you gotta wonder ,who looks at a shotgun muzzle and says to themselves,
"I can beat this" ?


I actually laughed out loud at that.

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Originally posted by GWbiker:
"A shotgun can be a fight stopper".

I witnessed it. Prison yard fight (Philly vs. Pittsburgh gangs)

Nearby Tower officer walked onto the catwalk and chambered a round in his shotgun.

Gang fight stopped.


I've found that I can go damn near anywhere at work (city police) with a rifle slung and people do not pay you the least bit of attention, but you come walking up with a shotgun and people notice. It's really kind of an odd thing.


When I was in Iraq you could point a rifle or even swing a belt fed onto someone and they would not bat an eye. But draw a pistol and they would scatter


That’s because in the Saddam days people would regularly be executed with a pistol, so when you whip your M9 out they think you’re not fucking around.
 
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