"High Performance All Season" tires do not exist. Too many compromises mean that this category of tire really does nothing really well.

With that said, of the tires you mentioned I would lean toward the Conti's and the Michelin's.

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Originally posted by T-Boy:
"High Performance All Season" tires do not exist. Too many compromises mean that this category of tire really does nothing really well.

With that said, of the tires you mentioned I would lean toward the Conti's and the Michelin's.

Sorry that isn’t true at all. Totally false. This question all depends on where you are geographically located. Here in North Texas, the weather is extremely variable. Winter here, and I don’t know if it’s the same in the hill country, fluctuates from 19 degrees, to 70 degrees (60’s here yesterday), flood rain, up to the 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, 60’s, back down to 20’s, maybe the teens, lots of rain, I mean it is all over the place. I run DWS06’s as a winter tire because of this. Because our winters are all over the place.

Sure the high performance all seasons don’t do any one thing the best, that’s kind of the point. They’ll do most anything very well. From summer to winter. I could do better than my 2 sets of wheels and tires, but I’d have to have 3 sets of wheels or maybe 4. one for performance summers. One for fall/spring (UHP all seasons), then winters for winter, and maybe a 4th set for track wheels and tires. That gets a little ridiculous.
What a tire like the DWS06 does is do pretty much everything well so a jack of all trades. So sure, agree that isn’t the best at one single thing but to say it doesn’t do anything well is false. I beat on my weekend car year round and I know damn well the DWS06 does pretty damn good at everything. I just prefer to have dedicated summer tires for twisty driving in the country or for a track day. Pure winters or tires are for North of here where they get more hardcore winter weather. We see snow or ice every other year at best and it’s less than a week of those conditions. The DWS06 has one part of the tread for snow and work damn well in it.

Note: I haven’t read this thread past the OP.

Having said that, I purchased some Bridgestone RE980AS’s in 295/30/20 and 305/30/20 to run on my 2018 Camaro ZL1 for cold weather/winter use. I will say, they’re FANTASTIC. To the point where I may just run them year round.

Buy the Michelin Pilot Sport AS. Trust me

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Originally posted by JonDaddy82:
Note: I haven’t read this thread past the OP.

Having said that, I purchased some Bridgestone RE980AS’s in 295/30/20 and 305/30/20 to run on my 2018 Camaro ZL1 for cold weather/winter use. I will say, they’re FANTASTIC. To the point where I may just run them year round.

I may have to give those a try. My current P Zeros do not like temps below 45. This and the nasty weather usually keeps me off the road from Dec through March. I run 245/35/19 in the front and 305/30/19 in the back. I started looking for AS tires in Nov and was not able to source any. This year I will start looking earlier.

Michelin A/S 3+ are fantastic performance tires. I am at a little over 10K miles on my first set. I didn't buy them to drive in "snow" (and I have no intention to) - I would have gotten the summer version, but it still dips down into the 20's here and that's not good for summer rubber.

But - the Michelin A/S 3+ (Y speed rated version) are incredible. They grip like crazy in the dry and wet (MK7 GTI with 18x8 wheels, 235/40/18). I find it hard to spin the tires from a launch now, compared to being able to spin them through first and second with the stock all-seasons. Huge upgrade to the car.

If you want to stick with runflats, I have had good experience with the Pirelli Cinturato P7 all season runflats that came on my BMW. Your sizes are available and the runflat feature works amazingly well (I've tried it twice at highway speeds, 0 psi)

Just ordered the Potenzas, Discount had a good deal on them (nearly $300 cheaper than the Michelins) & can have them in 2 days.
With the sizes on my car, no one stocks those locally.

These are what I just ordered for our Toyota Sienna AWD. They have the snowflake emblem.

Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015 All Terrain Tire

I never got good wear out of Continentals.

I like Bridgestones....and Costco mounts them for essentially....free.